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A Controversial Review of the Immaculate

Linet Kihonge

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So the Lord God said to the serpent,
“Because you have done this,
“Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust
all the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

The Bible says, the Curse to the Devil was that "He (Yeshua) would crush his head and the Enemy would strike his Heel." NOT HER/SHE.

Your Glorious Mystery say, "The angels and saints longed for the coming of her whose heel crushes the head of the serpent."

It was the Angels and Saints who longed for the Coming of Christ whose heel crushed the Head of the Serpent.:sweat:
 
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"Holy Mary, Mother of God . . . we can entrust all our cares and petitions to her: she prays for us as she prayed for herself: 'Let it be to me according to your word.' [Lk 1:38] By entrusting ourselves to her prayer, we abandon ourselves to the will of God together with her: 'Thy will be done,' (CCC 2677).

"Queen over all things" (Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 966).

Our Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, " . . . by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . (CCC par. 969).

By Mary's prayers, she delivers souls from death (CCC par. 966).

" . . . when She (Mary) is the subject of preaching and worship she prompts the faithful to come to her Son . . . " (Vatican Council II, p. 420).

By Mary's prayers, she delivers souls from death (CCC par. 966).

“ . . . the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.'" (CCC 969).

" . . . Mary is the supreme Minister of the distribution of graces. Jesus "sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Hebrews i. b.). Mary sitteth at the right hand of her Son . . . " (Pope Pius X, 1835-1914, Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum, 14).

Our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary, " . . . by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . (CCC par. 969).

Rev. 12:1-2 says, “And a great sign appeared in heaven: a Woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under Her feet, and on Her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and She was with child; and She cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.”

The Woman Persecuted

13And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle to fly from the presence of the serpent to her place in the wilderness, where she was nourished for a time, and times, and half a time.

15Then from the mouth of the serpent spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent. 16But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth to swallow up the river that had poured from the dragon’s mouth. 17And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make to war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore.

Note Passage 17:

And the Dragon was enraged at the Woman, and went to make to war with the rest of Her Children, who keep the Commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

Satan will try anything to place a division between Jesus, our Blessed Virgin Mary Mother, The Holy Spirit, God and ourselves. Particularly between Mother Mary and ourselves because satan knows that Mother Mary was Gifted as Queen of Heaven, Queen of God's Earth and God's Universe and all that is, with God's Holy Powers Gifted to His Beloved Holy Favoured One with Jesus His Beloved Son - our Holy Intermediaries - Holy Intercessors for now and for salvation eternally.

Common sense for those whom have not as yet comprehended the fact that our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary is our Heavenly Mother and Holy Intercessory.

God The Most High 'chose' His Blessed Virgin Mary as Jesus His Beloved Son's Mother now and eternally - not just on earth raising Jesus.

This is made quite clear to all of whom read and decipher through The Holy Spirit and Jesus, God's Holy Word when in Revelations, the Woman/Mary is Crowned with God's Holy Twelve Stars within Her Coronation and assumed body and soul into Heaven.

We mere mortals are not assumed into Heaven 'body and soul'.

Our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary was assumed 'body and soul' into Heaven.

29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30So the angel told her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31Behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you shall give Him the name Jesus.…

There are many more Holy passages within God's Holy Word explaining the most wonderful Holy Role of our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary, one being when our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary said to the Servants during the changing of Water into Wine by Jesus, God and The Holy Spirit, "Do what He tells You".

1On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ Mother was there, 2and Jesus and His disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3When the wine ran out, Jesus’ Mother said to Him, “They have no more wine.”

4“Woman, why does this concern us?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.”

5His Mother said to the servants, “Do whatever He tells you.”

6Now six stone water jars had been set there for the Jewish rites of purification. Each could hold from twenty to thirty gallons.a 7Jesus told the servants, “Fill the jars with water.”

So they filled them to the brim.

8“Now draw some out,” He said, “and take it to the master of the banquet.”

They did so, 9and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not know where it was from, but the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside 10and said, “Everyone serves the fine wine first, and then the cheap wine after the guests are drunk. But you have saved the fine wine until now!”

11Jesus performed this first sign at Cana in Galilee. He thus revealed His glory, and His disciples believed in Him.

Jesus changes within His Blessings with God and The Holy Spirit His Water and Wine and Blessed Bread into His Blessed Holy Sacraments - His Holy Eucharist, Wine and Water Consecrated during each Holy Mass where He is manifested within His Blessed Holy Sacrament and Holy Tabernacle and everywhere during Holy Mass!

"The greater the Trust in Me", the greater the Blessings from Me, Jesus assures us through His Holy Word and through Mother Mary and His Blessed Holy Saints and Martyrs to all mankind.

And that trust includes trusting our Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, God's Holy Beloved Favoured One and Chosen One as our "Mother" - our real "Mother" Whom with Jesus leads all souls back to Her Son Jesus with The Holy Spirit.

Always trust Jesus and our Blessed Virgin Mother Mary never doubting.

In this way, Jesus and Mother Mary together - always together - are able to lead hearts and souls back to His Blessed Holy Sacred Heart to "receive" Jesus into hearts and communicate with hearts with The Holy Spirit more powerfully and more greatly.

"The greater the Trust in Me, the greater My Generosity" Jesus said to Saint Faustina and to so many of God's other Saints and Martyrs for all mankind.
 
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To Thank God our Heavenly Father for His Most Holy Precious Blessing of our Most Precious Blessed Virgin Mother of God and Mother Mary Whom we are not worthy to have been "receiving" all of God's Blessings through His Blessed Virgin Mother Mary of Whom has been interceding and leading our hearts and souls back to Her Son, Jesus, God and The Holy Spirit since Mother Mary's Holy Coronation by God The Most High, Queen of Heaven, Queen of Earth, Queen of The Universe and of God's Children now and for eternity.

Praise be to Thee Dear God my Heavenly Father for Thy Loving Holy Blessings, Gifts and Graces Thee has given Dear Lord, with Thy Beloved Favoured Daughter Mary, The Mother of God being our Loving Holy Intercessory, Holy Mediatrix and Mother, Blessed forever intertwined in Thy Beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ - our unfathomable Divine Mercy forever and ever. Amen.
 
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This post will hurt but truth be told, some prayers are just too much!!!

"O Immaculate Heart of Mary, Heavenly beauty and splendor of the Father, You are the most valued Heavenly treasure.
New Eve, immaculate in soul, spirit and body, Created of the godly seed by the Spirit of God, You are the spiritual Mother of mankind.
Pure Virgin, full of grace then and now, Your whole being was raised Heavenly in full glory, To be elevated above all the hosts within the Kingdom of God.
O Heavenly Mother, Queen of Heaven and earth, I recognize the glory of your highest title, The Immaculate Heart of Mary!

Ephesians 3:14-16, "For this reason I kneel before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name. 16 I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being," (Prayer for the Ephesians from Paul).

Matthew 11 (24,25), "But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.”25 At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth,"

Matthew 6:14, "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you.


I just need to get something cleared up. I feel someone needs to explain where all the exaltation and use of praises commonly offered to God being offered to someone that no one in the bible ever used on a departed saint...:mad: What chapters did we look over, what sins have been made for not recognizing "Virgin", are we going to hell because she's a lot more than we think she is, are we worshiping the doctrinal correct way, biblical correct way or the traditional correct way, is the bible authoritative or not in deciding this "theotokos" issue, who's is the Mary mother of Christ? seriously.


Ok, first I want to clarify that the Prayer you posted is not a prayer most of us Catholics do know.
 
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Catholics, I'll ask you something.

First of all, can we agree that the Gospel was first to the Jews and then to the Gentiles?
We know Jews of all the others were the hardest to Convince that Jesus Christ was the Promised Son of God or HaMashiach. I know you know the trouble the LORD went through trying to tell them, "I Am He." He performed signs and miracles that couldn't be doubted that He was the Son prophesied. In other words, to convince a Jew that Jesus was actually sent by YHWH took a lot. Do you remember Paul? Jesus called him from the heavens otherwise, He had pledged allegiance to clear all the Christians out of the way. There were many things these apostles had seen and suffered to convince people of the LORD who came to set the sinners free.

Here is where your theology comes in!
The Jews had it rough through their Journey to Canaan and had it worse throughout their time in Jerusalem because they kept shifting from one wrong thing to another. They had hailstones kill some of them, sulphur for others, some of them by vipers, others by famines, others by plagues and many more. So for someone to tell them, "Guess what, it's okay now, you don't have to worry about sacrificing sheep/ram, Yeshua did it all?" They must have thought, "You are jiving."

Then we come to Catholics, who not only pray to Mary mother of God but have small icons displayed all over the alter, a crucifix at the front, and some traditions to follow on how they ought to honor her. They know you're not a YHWH's religion!!!
 

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Jesus is Our Lord, Our Saviour. God the Son. He is our beginning and our end.

Mary, is His Mother, Our Holy Mother, who intercedes for us to Jesus. She is the true Tabernacle of Jesus!

For Catholics, NOTHING comes before GOD. Nothing comes before JESUS, SON OF GOD.

Mary, is Our Holy Mother. We do not worship Mary!!! She is blessed. She IS the Queen of heaven..........
 
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I don't think you know them, OH MY, I can't explain how hard they are on observing Torah whether in Judaism or Messianic. Whew, you've no idea. I always heard about that until I heard from their lips. The hardest to reach out to are the Tanakh observers (wow, you don't want to go there). All I'm saying is this, when I look at the doctrines we hold in such High-esteem and who they are, we are blabbering. The traditions we hold in esteem is like a clown trying to make people think that the balloon behind him disappeared. My friend if there's time you will want to use scripture to defend yourself this would be the perfect scenario.

I'm also taken aback because, we don't know the God of Israel and I feel the LORD having a more lenient hand on the Hebrews than most of the other denominations. So if his favor rests on Israel then there must be something about them that win the LORD's hand on them and if the LORD doesn't think they are being stubborn for not accepting Yeshua there must be something He's kept in store in them. Moreover, who are we to say anything considering his SON was a Hebrew too. All I'm saying is this, we need to find our roots in what the Converted Jews uphold in esteem otherwise, we may have built a religion and not God's temple. The LORD is really going after them compared to those who've taken to other churches. You may not like it but it's written too!!!
 
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I don't think you know them, OH MY, I can't explain how hard they are on observing Torah whether in Judaism or Messianic. Whew, you've no idea. I always heard about that until I heard from their lips. The hardest to reach out to are the Tanakh observers (wow, you don't want to go there). All I'm saying is this, when I look at the doctrines we hold in such High-esteem and who they are, we are blabbering. The traditions we hold in esteem is like a clown trying to make people think that the balloon behind him disappeared. My friend if there's time you will want to use scripture to defend yourself this would be the perfect scenario.

I'm also taken aback because, we don't know the God of Israel and I feel the LORD having a more lenient hand on the Hebrews than most of the other denominations. So if his favor rests on Israel then there must be something about them that win the LORD's hand on them and if the LORD doesn't think they are being stubborn for not accepting Yeshua there must be something He's kept in store in them. Moreover, who are we to say anything considering his SON was a Hebrew too. All I'm saying is this, we need to find our roots in what the Converted Jews uphold in esteem otherwise, we may have built a religion and not God's temple. The LORD is really going after them compared to those who've taken to other churches. You may not like it but it's written too!!!

Can you write that in english now as i didnt understand what you wrote!
 
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They believe orthodox and early church are after destroying Torah or the laws of Moses as a result of the traditions you think are good for mankind.

Then they think wrongly
 
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