A Chrissy present for AV

Occams Barber · Dec 31, 2021

Merry Christmas AV!!!!!- OB
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Pluto Has a New Hype Squad Declaring It Should Be a Planet, Again
Asha Barbaschow 23 hrs ago

There’s a tiny little bit of joy to be had from the last few hours of this dumpster fire of a year for a certain non-planet, planet friend of ours.

Folks, Pluto might become a planet again.

Last we checked in on our demoted pal, Pluto, it was still most certainly not a planet, despite a decade-and-a-half’s worth of protesting from overly invested astronomy fans. While it’s highly unlikely the International Astronomical Union (IAU) will backtrack on its 2006 decision, the debate has heated up again, kinda.

Pluto had been considered the ninth planet since its discovery in 1930, but the IAU decided in 2006 that a planet must be spherical, orbit the sun and have gravitationally “cleared” its orbit of other objects.

More:
Pluto Has a New Hype Squad Declaring It Should Be a Planet, Again (msn.com)

sandman · Dec 31, 2021

I like Pluto....it reminds me of me..... a nonconformist and a little wacked out ....but hanging in there.

AV1611VET · Dec 31, 2021

Occams Barber said:
Pluto Has a New Hype Squad Declaring It Should Be a Planet, Again

HUBBA BUBBA !!!

SWEET JERUSALEM !!!

I ... I love ya, man!

Thanks for the info!

Occams Barber · Dec 31, 2021

sandman said:
I like Pluto....it reminds me of me..... a nonconformist and a little wacked out ....but hanging in there.

Just like AV

OB

sjastro · Dec 31, 2021

Much more important is to have the IAU rename Uranus as Geogium Sidus so we can be spared those crass jokes.

AV1611VET · Dec 31, 2021

Occams Barber said:
Just like AV

OB

SkyWriting · Jan 1, 2022

Occams Barber said:
Merry Christmas AV!!!!!- OB
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Pluto Has a New Hype Squad Declaring It Should Be a Planet, Again
Asha Barbaschow 23 hrs ago

View attachment 310286
There’s a tiny little bit of joy to be had from the last few hours of this dumpster fire of a year for a certain non-planet, planet friend of ours.

Folks, Pluto might become a planet again.

Last we checked in on our demoted pal, Pluto, it was still most certainly not a planet, despite a decade-and-a-half’s worth of protesting from overly invested astronomy fans. While it’s highly unlikely the International Astronomical Union (IAU) will backtrack on its 2006 decision, the debate has heated up again, kinda.

Pluto had been considered the ninth planet since its discovery in 1930, but the IAU decided in 2006 that a planet must be spherical, orbit the sun and have gravitationally “cleared” its orbit of other objects.

More:
Pluto Has a New Hype Squad Declaring It Should Be a Planet, Again (msn.com)

Sometimes tradition doesn't cause any harm. It should be a planet with an asterisk.

That Guy 11200 · Jan 1, 2022

Occams Barber said:
Merry Christmas AV!!!!!- OB
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Pluto Has a New Hype Squad Declaring It Should Be a Planet, Again
Asha Barbaschow 23 hrs ago

View attachment 310286
There’s a tiny little bit of joy to be had from the last few hours of this dumpster fire of a year for a certain non-planet, planet friend of ours.

Folks, Pluto might become a planet again.

Last we checked in on our demoted pal, Pluto, it was still most certainly not a planet, despite a decade-and-a-half’s worth of protesting from overly invested astronomy fans. While it’s highly unlikely the International Astronomical Union (IAU) will backtrack on its 2006 decision, the debate has heated up again, kinda.

Pluto had been considered the ninth planet since its discovery in 1930, but the IAU decided in 2006 that a planet must be spherical, orbit the sun and have gravitationally “cleared” its orbit of other objects.

Any definition that relies on an object's environment, rather than its intrinsic properties, is a bad definition. It's like migratory birds being considered different species when they fly to another country. And, that's not even considering that the word 'significant' (that word was missed in the quote above) isn't even defined, making it completely arbitrary as to whether an object is of 'significant' size.

Considering the ones who came up with this definition believe that "School children will have too many names to remember" is a legitimate, scientific argument; the IAU make themselves look like hobbyists, not scientists.

SkyWriting · Jan 1, 2022

That Guy 11200 said:
Any definition that relies on an object's environment, rather than its intrinsic properties, is a bad definition. It's like migratory birds being considered different species when they fly to another country. And, that's not even considering that the word 'significant' (that word was missed in the quote above) isn't even defined, making it completely arbitrary as to whether an object is of 'significant' size.

Considering the ones who came up with this definition believe that "School children will have too many names to remember" is a legitimate, scientific argument; the IAU make themselves look like hobbyists, not scientists.

Science can call it orbiting object K5669a. Kids should learn to call it a planet.

That Guy 11200 · Jan 1, 2022

SkyWriting said:
Science can call it orbiting object K5669a. Kids should learn to call it a planet.

Most people don't even remember the names of the eight planets we currently have. What school kids learn is irrelevant.

The silly thing is that they bothered to define a planet at all. It can't be used to describe objects outside the Solar System, so what is the point of it?

It would have been more honest to define a planet as "These eight objects and no other", and then listed the planet names. Instead, they wanted to give it an air of science. So, we have a definition that isn't useful or usable in any way. It doesn't help us categorise objects that are being discovered around other stars and, as such, is little more than a colloquialism.

AV1611VET · Jan 1, 2022

That Guy 11200 said:
Considering the ones who came up with this definition believe that "School children will have too many names to remember" is a legitimate, scientific argument;

Actually it isn't.

People memorize the Periodic Table.

But for the record, we should have only nine planets right now.

No more, no less.

SkyWriting · Jan 1, 2022

That Guy 11200 said:
Most people don't even remember the names of the eight planets we currently have.

What school kids learn is irrelevant....

If you were ever a school kid, then your post is......by association......

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jan 1, 2022

AV1611VET said:
HUBBA BUBBA !!!

SWEET JERUSALEM !!!

I ... I love ya, man!

Thanks for the info!

Are you sure?

From the linked article:

"A “planet” by their definition is “any geologically active” body in space, which not only would rope Pluto back into the fold, but also moons like Europa, Enceladus and Titan, as well as the asteroid, Ceres.

About 150 new “planets” (!!!) would then be elevated to planet status with the existing eight."

AV1611VET · Jan 1, 2022

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
Are you sure?

From the linked article:

"A “planet” by their definition is “any geologically active” body in space, which not only would rope Pluto back into the fold, but also moons like Europa, Enceladus and Titan, as well as the asteroid, Ceres.

About 150 new “planets” (!!!) would then be elevated to planet status with the existing eight."

I vote we just leave them alone and let them be what they used to be classified as: planets, moons, and asteroids.

Playing around with definitions can lead to confusion.

Tinker Grey · Jan 1, 2022

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
Are you sure?

From the linked article:

"A “planet” by their definition is “any geologically active” body in space, which not only would rope Pluto back into the fold, but also moons like Europa, Enceladus and Titan, as well as the asteroid, Ceres.

About 150 new “planets” (!!!) would then be elevated to planet status with the existing eight."

Aw, man. Don't wreck the numerology!

AV1611VET · Jan 1, 2022

Tinker Grey said:
Aw, man. Don't wreck the numerology!

Numbers mean nothing today.

Just move the decimal point to the right as many times as necessary to make it fit.

Centuries ago, science taught the universe was just a few thousand years old.

Today? well look how far to the right the decimal point has been moved.

And it's not just the decimal point, either.

Are you familiar with the Two Moon Theory?

Just double the amount of moons we once had, and it adds validity to the theory.

That Guy 11200 · Jan 1, 2022

SkyWriting said:
If you were ever a school kid, then your post is......by association......

"What school kids learn is irrelevant ... from the perspective of science."

In no other field would scientists worry about a subject being too difficult for school kids to learn.

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jan 1, 2022

Tinker Grey said:
Aw, man. Don't wreck the numerology!

Tell them that. I don't really care what they decide as long as it's consistent and useful.

AV1611VET · Jan 1, 2022

FrumiousBandersnatch said:
Tell them that. I don't really care what they decide as long as it's consistent and useful.

What use have we derived from Pluto?

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jan 1, 2022

AV1611VET said:
What use have we derived from Pluto?

We have gained knowledge by studying it. But I wasn't talking about the utility of planets, I was talking about the utility of the definition of 'planet'.

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