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[Rainie]

What are off shoots?

 

[NightEternal]

Oh please. I can 'govern' myself just fine.

You may want to try taking your own advice. How many shots against the .org have you taken in the past? According to you, we have Jesuits at the highest levels and seminary professors teaching NLP.

And if you think I am the only one who believes the admin needs to be held accountable for railroading Ford, you are vastly mistaken. They may not all be outspoken, but they are legion, especially in Australia and North America.

Unless you are one of those who actually believe the administrators at the time even read or seriously considered Ford's Glacierview document.

Go ahead and dig up the thread. I stand by it. However, you should know it has been rendered almost useless by mod demands for edits.

 

[OntheDL]

What are off shoots?

From freedictionary.com...

1. Something that branches out or derives its existence or origin from a particular source.

It's a term generally defines those who come from within, but developed a different practice or belief.

 

[NightEternal]

Offshoots are generally considered to be those SDA groups who have officially separated themselves from the mainline church and have thier own churches, campmeetings, schools, communes, etc and divert tithe funds from the GC. It is not even a remotely accurate term to use for anyone on this forum, unless we get a Shepherd's Rod or SDA Reform member coming in here.

 

[OntheDL]

Oh please. I can 'govern' myself just fine.

You may want to try taking your own advice. How many shots against the .org have you taken in the past? According to you, we have Jesuits at the highest levels and seminary professors teaching NLP.

And if you think I am the only one who believes the admin needs to be held accountable for railroading Ford, you are vastly mistaken. They may not all be outspoken, but they are legion, especially in Australia and North America.

Unless you are one of those who actually believe the administrators at the time even read or seriously considered Ford's Glacierview document.

Go ahead and dig up the thread. I stand by it. However, you should know it has been rendered almost useless by mod demands for edits.

Hmm...you should know the difference.

I spoke against those who conspire to destroy our doctrines and our church. Quite different from what you did.

 

[NightEternal]

And the fallout and proceeding witch-hunt post-Glacierview didn't have a negative affect on our church?

The 150 or so ministers and thier families who fell victim might disagree with you, as well as the devastated scholars and ministers who considered Ford thier friend.

The actions of the admin in response to Ford caused much pain, division and destruction on the church, as surely as I am sitting here typing this.

We agree to disagree then.

 

[djconklin]

We must remember that Jesus said baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, not baptize into the sda church....there is a difference...

I wasn't either--by implication then this is either a lie or I'm not SDA.

 

[djconklin]

According to you, we have Jesuits at the highest levels and seminary professors teaching NLP.

I've heard these claims--no names are ever given though which casts a huge doubt that such has ever happened. And since I've been through the seminary I can tell you that NONE of the profs taught us NLP.

 

[OntheDL]

I've heard these claims--no names are ever given though which casts a huge doubt that such has ever happened. And since I've been through the seminary I can tell you that NONE of the profs taught us NLP.

Hmm...did you miss the posts made by Moriah? Would you like to see a video on this? I have one at home. Can convert it into computer format if you like.

There is name named. William Loveless, CUC president, taught the art of demon possession.

 

[djconklin]

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Originally Posted by djconklin
I've heard these claims--no names are ever given though which casts a huge doubt that such has ever happened. And since I've been through the seminary I can tell you that NONE of the profs taught us NLP.

Hmm...did you miss the posts made by Moriah? Would you like to see a video on this? I have one at home. Can convert it into computer format if you like.

There is name named. William Loveless, CUC president, taught the art of demon possession.

Yep, missed that post. Now, why should I believe it?

Do you believe Bill Clinton slept with a black woman? Do you believe that Oprah Winfrey and her close friend Gail are lovers? Do you believe that the symbols on a Campbells soup can are satanic? Did you get the email saying Jay Leno wrote this ... did you believe it? Did you get the email saying George Carlin wrote this ... did you believe it? Did you get the email saying we should use plastics in our microwave, according to press release from John Hopkins University?

BTW, how would video about satanic worship prove the claim that Jesuits are running the church or that the seminary teaches NLP?

I hereby sentence you to 6 hours of Law & Order or until you learn what constiututes fact.

 

[OntheDL]

I've heard these claims--no names are ever given though which casts a huge doubt that such has ever happened. And since I've been through the seminary I can tell you that NONE of the profs taught us NLP.

Dave,

I'm going to convert it and then send a link to you through pm. It may be beneficial for all to see.

 

[OntheDL]

Yep, missed that post. Now, why should I believe it?

Do you believe Bill Clinton slept with a black woman? Do you believe that Oprah Winfrey and her close friend Gail are lovers? Do you believe that the symbols on a Campbells soup can are satanic? Did you get the email saying Jay Leno wrote this ... did you believe it? Did you get the email saying George Carlin wrote this ... did you believe it? Did you get the email saying we should use plastics in our microwave, according to press release from John Hopkins University?

BTW, how would video about satanic worship prove the claim that Jesuits are running the church or that the seminary teaches NLP?

I hereby sentence you to 6 hours of Law & Order or until you learn what constiututes fact.

Dave, you only have to see the gradual changes over the years/decades to realize we are under a coordinated attack.

 

[honorthesabbath]

What are off shoots?

Here is the definition from the American Standard..

off·shoot

(ôf'shōōt', ŏf'-) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. Something that branches out or derives its existence or origin from a particular source. See Synonyms at branch.
2. A branch, descendant, or member of a family or social group.
3. Botany A lateral shoot from the main stem of a plant.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Dave, you only have to see the gradual changes over the years/decades to realize we are under a coordinated attack.

That's a fact.

We had people getting banned for totally disobeying CF rules and they'd sign up under a different username immediately to start right where they left off. That name would get banned and then they'd sign up under a different name.

It got very childish.

It almost cost us the whole subforum.

 

[Jimlarmore]

In my opinion satan is behind nearly all of this turmoil we see on this forum. When we witness the truth in the Bible it makes him very angry at us. He does not want the truth to be known and will do all he can to keep it from being spread.

You can just sit back and see him working here, it's as plain as the nose on your face.

God Bless
Jim Larmore