A Brilliant Perspective of Creation vs Evolution

[Sir Joseph]

Our culture, and skeptics in particular who defend evolutionary theory, often criticize the believer who embraces God and Biblical creation as unscientific, ignorant and foolish. This, despite some of the greatest scientists in history openly expressing their belief in God, acceptance of Biblical creation, and rejection of evolutionary theory. Here are 10 such men that discovered many of the laws of science we value so highly these days.

Sir Ambrose Fleming - father of modern electronics​

Blaise Pascal - mathematician developing the theory of probability​

Johann Kepler - mathematician and father of astronomy​

Nicolas Steno - father of modern geology​

William Thomson - father of engineering and laws of thermodynamics​

Ernest T.S. Walton - PHD Nobel Prize winning mathematician and physicist​

Robert Boyle - major contributer to chemistry and physics​

James Clerk Maxwell - mathematician greatly influencing 20th century physics and thermodynamics​

Leonhard Euler - one of the greatest mathematicians and theoretical physicists of all time​

Isaac Newton - most influential scientist of all time​

The way I see it, the skeptic who criticizes Bible believing creationists infers their pride and ignorance not only upon current Christians, but upon some of the most brilliant scientists of human history. And for those that have no respect for these historical sources, I offer this exceedingly interesting video interview with the newest, perhaps smartest mind on the planet. Everyone on both sides of the creation/evolution issue is bound to realize this sooner or later. Best watch it now and reassess your views appropriately.

Feel free to leave your comments below, but I have no desire or intention of arguing creationism vs evolution with others here in this thread. I merely want to share this extraordinary video with others.

 

[River Jordan]

Our culture, and skeptics in particular who defend evolutionary theory, often criticize the believer who embraces God and Biblical creation as unscientific, ignorant and foolish.

I disagree with how you frame the issue. It looks like you've cast it as theistic evolutionist Christians don't embrace God or Biblical creation, which is not accurate.

This, despite some of the greatest scientists in history openly expressing their belief in God, acceptance of Biblical creation, and rejection of evolutionary theory. Here are 10 such men that discovered many of the laws of science we value so highly these days.

Sir Ambrose Fleming - father of modern electronics​

Blaise Pascal - mathematician developing the theory of probability​

Johann Kepler - mathematician and father of astronomy​

Nicolas Steno - father of modern geology​

William Thomson - father of engineering and laws of thermodynamics​

Ernest T.S. Walton - PHD Nobel Prize winning mathematician and physicist​

Robert Boyle - major contributer to chemistry and physics​

James Clerk Maxwell - mathematician greatly influencing 20th century physics and thermodynamics​

Leonhard Euler - one of the greatest mathematicians and theoretical physicists of all time​

Isaac Newton - most influential scientist of all time​

Those people either existed before evolutionary biology was even a science or work in areas of science that have absolutely nothing to do with evolution, so it's not a very good argument.

The way I see it, the skeptic who criticizes Bible believing creationists infers their pride and ignorance not only upon current Christians, but upon some of the most brilliant scientists of human history.

Nope, see above.

 

[stevevw]

I think its really simple. Dawkins say that evolution by natural selection gives the appearence of design but is not supernatural design.

Why. Its not because it doesn't look designed. But because the designer or the process that gives the appearence of design is not a designer and has no purpose or dirction towards anything but blind and purposeless survival.

So this seems a metaphyical inference or assumption as to whether its designed by a creator or by natural itself. But even then what is nature that it can produce anything without some prior laws in place to be able to set in place the conditions for even the appearence of design.

It seems to me that the assumption that nature gives the appearence of design is a pretty weak assumption and more like a belief. Just like belief in a creator God. Just opposing metaphyical assumptions that give the same result which is the appearence of design.

 

[BobRyan]

Sir Ambrose Fleming - father of modern electronics
Blaise Pascal - mathematician developing the theory of probability
Johann Kepler - mathematician and father of astronomy
Nicolas Steno - father of modern geology
William Thomson - father of engineering and laws of thermodynamics
Ernest T.S. Walton - PHD Nobel Prize winning mathematician and physicist
Robert Boyle - major contributer to chemistry and physics
James Clerk Maxwell - mathematician greatly influencing 20th century physics and thermodynamics
Leonhard Euler - one of the greatest mathematicians and theoretical physicists of all time
Isaac Newton - most influential scientist of all time

Those people either existed before evolutionary biology was even a science or work in areas of science that have absolutely nothing to do with evolution, so it's not a very good argument.

hmm - so probability, geology, astronomy, Chemistry and Physics, thermodynamics etc - have nothing to do with evolution?

I tend to agree with you on that point.

 

[BobRyan]

I think its really simple. Dawkins say that evolution by natural selection gives the appearence of design but is not supernatural design.

Why. Its not because it doesn't look designed. But because the designer or the process that gives the appearence of design is not a designer

I agree that the story for evolution proposes a process with no intelligence , a designer with no intelligence. They appeal to the idea that if God did something -- then He did it in such a way as does not show him to have any intelligence at all.

By contrast we have Genesis 1 and 2.

has no purpose or dirction towards anything but blind and purposeless

yep that is what they speculate.

by contrast -- Rom 1 says even those with limited to no information from God on this subject - can see that creationism has the right answer - hands down.

 

[River Jordan]

Sir Ambrose Fleming - father of modern electronics
Blaise Pascal - mathematician developing the theory of probability
Johann Kepler - mathematician and father of astronomy
Nicolas Steno - father of modern geology
William Thomson - father of engineering and laws of thermodynamics
Ernest T.S. Walton - PHD Nobel Prize winning mathematician and physicist
Robert Boyle - major contributer to chemistry and physics
James Clerk Maxwell - mathematician greatly influencing 20th century physics and thermodynamics
Leonhard Euler - one of the greatest mathematicians and theoretical physicists of all time
Isaac Newton - most influential scientist of all time

hmm - so probability, geology, astronomy, Chemistry and Physics, thermodynamics etc - have nothing to do with evolution?

I tend to agree with you on that point.

Please look up each of those names and see when they did their work. (hint: you can't say someone "rejected evolutionary theory" if they died before evolutionary theory was developed)

 

[The Barbarian]

Our culture, and skeptics in particular who defend evolutionary theory, often criticize the believer who embraces God and Biblical creation as unscientific, ignorant and foolish. This, despite some of the greatest scientists in history openly expressing their belief in God, acceptance of Biblical creation, and rejection of evolutionary theory. Here are 10 such men that discovered many of the laws of science we value so highly these days.

Were you aware that Isaac Newton denied the divinity of Jesus? None of those guys denied Darwin's theory.

I agree that the story for evolution proposes a process with no intelligence , a designer with no intelligence. They appeal to the idea that if God did something -- then He did it in such a way as does not show him to have any intelligence at all.

Interestingly, engineers have found that they can solve previously unsolvable problems by copying evolutionary processes. Genetic algorithms have been very effective in doing so. God knew best, after all.