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Christian and Homosexual Persecution - A Letter from the Rev. Jan Nunley

HONOLULU STAR-BULLETIN
P.O. Box 3080, Honolulu, Hawai`i 96802

Dear Editor:

On September 12, Robert Ing wrote: "Are gay people given 15- to 30-year prison sentences for their homosexuality? Are they being beaten and starved? How about being forced to eat food tainted with human waste, or being physically bound for months and even years on end?"

Mr. Ing might be surprised to learn that, in fact, same-sex sexual relations are currently punishable by a prison sentence of up to 20 years in the state in which I live, Rhode Island, and also in Georgia and Virginia. A homosexual can be imprisoned for life in Idaho for making love with a life partner. Until 1950, all but two states classified same-sex relations as a felony, with only murder, kidnapping and rape commanding heavier sentences. Until 1961, every state in the Union had such a law. Penalties for homosexual acts in other countries range from ten days' imprisonment in Ethiopia, to a fine and beating in India, to life imprisonment in Guyana. Eight Islamic countries prescribe the death penalty for homosexuality. Incidentally, the death penalty for homosexual behavior was not repealed in England until 1861.

In Germany, Paragraph 175 of the German Penal Code was used to "relocate" and eventually exterminate up to 220,000 German homosexuals, after submitting them to castration and "hormonal reversal" experiments (presumably to enable them to become "ex-gays"). Unlike other groups imprisoned by the Nazis, when the concentration camps were liberated, homosexuals remained prisoners in the camps--by order of the Allies. Their imprisonment remained part of their police record, and they received no compensation for concentration camp sentences. And, as one historian has written: "Throughout the l950s and l960s, German courts convicted homosexual men at a rate as high as that of the Nazi regime."

As for Christian behavior towards homosexuals, Mr. Ing also might be surprised to learn that, starting in the 12th century, homosexuals were persecuted, tortured, castrated, and burned to death on a regular basis in the Christian Church and Christian-controlled States in Europe. The origins of the derogatory term "[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth]" lie in the practices of the Inquisition, which bound those accused of homosexuality and piled them as fuel at the feet of those being burned for heresy or witchcraft, since homosexuals were not considered worthy of the dignity of being burned standing up.

Given these facts, Mr. Ing would have to have a great deal of gall indeed to continue to deny that homosexuals have suffered persecution and torture, in that "Christians" through the ages have persecuted homosexuals with every bit as much of the ferocity that is being shown to Christians in other countries today. That is why my church, the Episcopal Church, this summer showed itself to be truly Christian and issued an official apology for its part in perpetuating anti-gay prejudice and persecution, as well as calling for action to defend persecuted Christians around the world.

Faithfully yours,
The Rev. Jan Nunley
Rector, St. Peter's and St. Andrew's Episcopal Church
Providence, RI 02908-5255

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Georgia is a "right to work" state as well as an "Employment at Will" state. It's one of only a few states in America in which an employer can pretty much fire an employee without any notice or warning and for whatever reason they see fit. Because of the problems and ambiguity with these laws, an employer can tell an employee, "You're fired because you're a queer" and if the person discriminated against took it to the federal level, the employer could simply say they were slacking in their duties and not have to provide supporting documentation.

Here in Georgia, employers can also give you zero notice that they are closing the company provided they are not shutting down operations in order to outsource their work to a foreign country. You can also be fired, without warning, for failing to commit a crime if your employer asks you to, reporting a crime committed by a co-worker, filing for bankruptcy or even filing for workman's compensation if you are injured on the job.

I actually worked with a man who injured his back lifting a heavy stack of paper off the floor. He requested the paperwork to file for workman's comp and they smiled and gave it to him and told him they hoped his back was feeling better soon. I actually overheard the supervisors laughing and saying, "he'll never get that money". They fired him the next day via voice mail message. It pretty much said, "we won't be needing you anymore. Please do not return to the office. We'll mail you your last check."

The real crux of the matter is, in Georgia the only time you're offered any sort of protection against unjust termination or job security is if you form a union - another offense that can result in being fired with no warning.

Anyway, this is one of the many discriminatory laws we have in this state that prohibit fair treatment of minority groups in the workplace. Our state also passed a constitutional amendment prohibiting the performing or recognition of same-sex marriages.

I wanted to clarify, however, that our state's anti-sodomy laws were struck down in 1998. According to LAMBDA Legal:

In Powell v. The State, the Georgia Supreme Court overturned the state law, which made oral and anal sex between consenting adults, gay and non-gay, a felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison. As Lambda argued in its friend-of-the-court brief, the Court held that the 182-year-old sodomy law violates the right to privacy guaranteed by Georgia's Constitution.
 
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Yeah, she's real brave :doh:... I guess the fact that she is a lesbian doesn't color her opinions at all does it?

Rev Nunley is pictured below...

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Yeah, she's real brave :doh:... I guess the fact that she is a lesbian doesn't color her opinions at all does it?

Rev Nunley is pictured below...

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One should certainly hope so. To be a member of an oppressed group one should certainly be supportive of human rights but there are, even on this message board, self-hating LGBTs who post hatred toward their fellow LGBTs and advocacy of further oppression.

She is certainly braver than the forces of hatred, I know that's right.
 
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Yeah, she's real brave :doh:... I guess the fact that she is a lesbian doesn't color her opinions at all does it?

Rev Nunley is pictured below...

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The truth is the truth whether the speaker is a minority or not.

If the Rev. Nunley were black would you be attacking her and calling her a liar just because of her skin color? Why not? you are perfectly fine with doing such just because she is a member of one minority so why not attack any minority?
 
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The truth is the truth whether the speaker is a minority or not.

If the Rev. Nunley were black would you be attacking her and calling her a liar just because of her skin color? Why not? you are perfectly fine with doing such just because she is a member of one minority so why not attack any minority?

God doesnt say that "being black" is a sin. Sorry, bad analogy. Has nothing to do with "being a minority". I work, live, eat, go to church with, and engage in social outings with black friends. As a matter of fact, I also have friends who happen to be gay - but they know I believe homosexual behavior is a sin. Has nothing to do with HATE. Has everything to do with God's Word.
 
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God doesnt say that "being black" is a sin.


God does not say to be LGBT is a sin.

Sorry, bad analogy.

No, perfect analogy.

Has nothing to do with "being a minority".

Oh, it has EVERYTHING to do with that.

I work, live, eat, go to church with, and engage in social outings with black friends.

You do with LGBTs too; you just don't know it.

As a matter of fact, I also have friends who happen to be gay - but they know I believe homosexual behavior is a sin.

Yeah, this is the old "some of my best friends are..." schtick we heard so much in the 1950s and 1960s about Blacks. Thank you for proving the point of the similarity of the black Struggle and the LGBT struggle so well by doing that.

Has nothing to do with HATE.

If you don't think LGBTs relationships are just as good and holy as yours that is bigotry and hatred.

Has everything to do with God's Word.

"God's Word" is entirely silent on the topic.
 
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