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God has more ways of expressing His love than the one way you believe in. That's my whole point.
Then there is a huge difference between BahaI and Christianity. God Loves us first before man can Love. Gods Love is not contingent on man Loving God back, but is contingent on man just accepting Gods Love. A human soldier of satan fighting Gods at every turn, needs only to wimp out, give up, surrender to God even if the soldier still perceives God as his enemy, but by just surrendering the soldier allows God to shower him with gifts.The Baha'i Faith states it this way:
"Love Me, that I may love thee. If thou lovest Me not, My love can in no wise reach thee."
Elsewhere in the Baha'i writings it is made clear that God's love is always present like sunlight, but some people have placed themselves behind a barrier that blocks some of most of the light.
The earliest Christian theology WRT the atonement (as communicated by the earliest church fathers) was "Christus Victor", wasn't it?
Under these auspices, Christ's death on the cross was not a legal loophole used to satisfy God's demand for blood as recompense, but a resounding victory over the forces of evil that held mankind in bondage.
The penance systems of Satisfaction Theory and Penal Substitution place an undue emphasis on man's obligation to offer payment to God and on God's obligation to Law. Instead by suffering a death that, before the Law, meant an accursed status, Christ, instead of satisfying an obligation, overthrew the power of the Law, since its condemnation of a perfect man was unjust. Furthermore, Death, Sin, and the Devil, (personalized forces in Christus Victor), are overthrown since Jesus' subsequent Resurrection breaks the dominion they once held over human life. Since the Resurrection is a mark of the Father's favor despite the Law's curse on crucified men, the Atonement, far from reinforcing the Law, deprives and subverts the Law of its ability to condemn. Thus God the Father and God the Son are not set at odds by the Cross with the first in the role of Judge and the second in the role of Sinner, but are united in seeking the downfall of the Devil's system of sin, death, and Law that enslaves humanity.
Unlike the Satisfaction Doctrine view of the Atonement (the Latin view) which is rooted in the idea of Christ paying the penalty of sin to satisfy the demands of justice, the classic view of the Early church (Christus Victor) is rooted in the Incarnation and how Christ entered into human misery and wickedness and thus redeemed it.
Then there is a huge difference between BahaI and Christianity. God Loves us first before man can Love. Gods Love is not contingent on man Loving God back, but is contingent on man just accepting Gods Love. A human soldier of satan fighting Gods at every turn, needs only to wimp out, give up, surrender to God even if the soldier still perceives God as his enemy, but by just surrendering the soldier allows God to shower him with gifts.
Then there is a huge difference between BahaI and Christianity. God Loves us first before man can Love.
Gods Love is not contingent on man Loving God back, but is contingent on man just accepting Gods Love.
A human soldier of satan fighting Gods at every turn, needs only to wimp out, give up, surrender to God even if the soldier still perceives God as his enemy, but by just surrendering the soldier allows God to shower him with gifts.
This seems to be based upon the idea that everybody who isn't a Christian is at war with G-d. I'm not. I'm open to whatever He wants for me. But that openness has always brought me back to Judaism and not to Jesus.
Uneducated children do not perceive the huge danger with playing in the street so the discipline needs to be severe enough to let them realize the significance.
This!!!I really don't think God cares about our religion, only our heart and our love for Truth and for others, and our actions.
I really don't think God cares about our religion, only our heart and our love for Truth and for others, and our actions.
Everything God does for willing individuals is motivated by God's Love.
This is the thing.
We have two choices.
One, we can realize that this is a wonderful thing, that LoAmmi has found his path and relationship with God, and genuinely celebrate it and see him as in the fold.
Or:
Two, we see our way as the only way, or the best way for everyone, that LoAmmi is lost or damned or "stuck in a dead religion" etc.
I really don't think God cares about our religion, only our heart and our love for Truth and for others, and our actions.
That's way, WAY too exclusive. God is not exclusive!!Everything God does for willing individuals is motivated by God's Love.
In any case, the real difference between Christianity and the Baha'i Faith lies in the fact we don't have a satan.
I disagree. We still have a satan, same as always, just as we still have hell and heaven. It's just that we now know that satan is our own self-centered willfulness, which over time with enough turning away from the light can warp into actual deliberate hate, destruction and acts of outrageous evil.
Newsflash: Jesus didn't speak Greek.
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Only Luke represents Jesus as using the term "hades" and then only in one place. Luke was not a Jew and probably not familiar with the word Gehenna.
but there is also the need for the parent to be perceived by all his/her children as consistent, just and fair.
Uneducated children do not perceive the huge danger with playing in the street so the discipline needs to be severe enough to let them realize the significance.
Is that some kind of special bahai inspiration.How do know that ?.
Now, if you are done with your time wasting bahai bs here is hades in matthew:
Which basically means you have the same understanding Jews have, with the possible exception of HaSatan being an actual angel of HaShem who does what he's told to do depending on tradition.
I think the Jewish people maintained a more balanced form of spirituality than many / most Christians and Muslim converts did.
God has worked with the Jewish people for thousands of years in a very close and direct relationship, it is understandable that their grasp of the subtleties of faith might be better than tribes and peoples much newer to monotheism.
The question is if God Love us and we reject that Love as it was given (as pure charity) did Love between God and us take place?
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