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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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ChristsSoldier115
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The one thing Christians never trust God on is their own wealth. Because they beleive they earned their wealth and it wasn't a blessing given to them by God. So they want to keep what is theirs. We're all victims of this thought process.
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Tull
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So Gods wisdom brings poverty ? and a man blessed of God is starving ? where is that in the bible,many men of the bible were rich as it was defined in that time....poverty is not a virtue and neither is wealth,holiness is the only virtue....as far as my bank account goes I usually have enough to pay the next bill coming in.....like I said and this discussion proves,everybody is interested in money and very curious it seems about what others are doing with it.
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W2L
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Who are you preaching to though? Unbelievers? Do you think they care about Gods commandment? Paul was concerned with those inside the Church not outside it. He wasnt trying to force Gods law onto unbelievers like politics try to do. That's wrong, and dangerous. Its not Gods will that we do that and so it will not work out. We are supposed to concern ourselves only with the inside of the Church. When it comes to the world we are commanded to be separate from them, and to not join with them in their ways. Gods ways are different. We are only supposed to love them, pray for them, and do good for them. We are however not supposed to force Gods law onto them.
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Tull
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That being the case I thank God for the unbelievers,the unbelievers who once stood up for righteousness and decency,the ones who fought the wars,the ones who patrol our streets to try and stem the tide of crime and violence,the ones who take a stand,if what you say is true I would not want to live in a world without them and the stable society that have provided so far,they are dropping the ball now
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W2L
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Some men in the OT were rich, but that's OC. Those men were given carnal blessings that were a shadow of the spiritual blessings that came with Christ in the NC promise. Our riches are in heaven not earth. Our riches are fruit of the spirit and the ministration of the spirit. John the Baptist was not rich and the Lord said he was the greatest man ever to live, yet he also said whoever is least in the kingdom is greater than he is. The least in the kingdom are not financially wealthy. "Let him who has ears hear" (Remember that saying as you read these scriptures)
Remember those rich men in the OT? See here-
Matthew 13:16 But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17 For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it. 18 “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means:
Rich men in fine clothes? No sir. The least are the greatest.
Matthew 11:7 As John’s disciples were leaving, Jesus began to speak to the crowd about John: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed swayed by the wind? 8 If not, what did you go out to see? A man dressed in fine clothes? No, those who wear fine clothes are in kings’ palaces. 9 Then what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. 10 This is the one about whom it is written:
“‘I will send my messenger ahead of you,
who will prepare your way before you.’[c]
11 Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence,[d] and violent people have been raiding it. 13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. 15 Whoever has ears, let them hear.
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