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[yeshuaslavejeff]

Trying to find your post.

I think this is it> If you Love Me - KEEP My Commandments

(there's much better ones in other threads, but that one's good for starters)

 

[jimmyjimmy]

That is why I don't understand conservative anti-government sentiment. Some groups advocate for no government at all.

It's not "anti-government". No conservative I know is anti-government. It's a small and limited government, in scope and power, which conservatives want. Just the way the founding fathers intended. . .

 

[chandraclaws]

I think this is it> If you Love Me - KEEP My Commandments

(there's much better ones in other threads, but that one's good for starters)

From that post:
"It is better to have law abiding citizens INSTEAD of lawlessness.
LOVE obeys the LAW, sin doesn't . Sin is lawlessness."

Very well said. Thank you. And I would say that lawlessness is sin.

 

[joshua 1 9]

A Black Lives Matter rioter said: 'Rich People Got all this Money and They Ain't Tryin' to Give Us None'

They do not give the money to the people because they would waste the money.
The rich invest the money and the money grows.

 

[joshua 1 9]

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They burned down the gas station because the people there would chase off trouble makers with a gun.

 

[W2L]

They do not give the money to the people because they would waste the money.
The rich invest the money and the money grows.

Jesus said to do good to those who hate you, and to feed your enemy. He didn't say keep your money, invest it and then throw a party to mock your enemy.

This is the problem with politics, its perverts sound doctrine.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Jesus said to do good to those who hate you, and to feed your enemy. He didn't say keep your money, invest it and then throw a party to mock your enemy.

This is the problem with politics, its perverts sound doctrine.

Jesus did say to invest the money.

26 But his master answered him, ‘You wicked and slothful servant! You knew that I reap where I have not sown and gather where I scattered no seed? 27 Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming I should have received what was my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him and give it to him who has the ten talents. 29 For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

 

[W2L]

Jesus did say to invest the money.

26 But his master answered him, ‘You wicked and slothful servant! You knew that I reap where I have not sown and gather where I scattered no seed? 27 Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming I should have received what was my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him and give it to him who has the ten talents. 29 For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

Yes but not in the way you seem to be preaching it. That parable is about investing in the Gospel, and investing your treasure in heaven not in the stock market. Its about investing in the poor and needy, and even investing in your enemies welfare too. Its about letting your light shine so everyone can see how good and generous the Lord is, and give him glory. Doing good for your enemy is investing wisely, because the Lord said whoever hears and obeys his words will be considered a wise man. He said that people came from all over to hear Solomon's words, yet a greater wise man than Solomon is here. His name is the Lord.


Politics are contentious but the Lords ways are peace. It is better to give than receive. If people really want to leave a good inheritance to their Children, then they will teach them this. The commands of the Lord are better than Gold, and he says that its better to give than receive, and that's its evil to turn away from the poor when you are able to help them. He says if we turn away from the poor when they ask for help, then he will turn away from us when we ask Him for help. Is that what you want to leave your children?


Proverbs 3:13 Blessed are those who find wisdom,
those who gain understanding,

14 for she is more profitable than silver
and yields better returns than gold.

17 Her ways are pleasant ways,
and all her paths are peace.

18 She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her;
those who hold her fast will be blessed.

 

[W2L]

2 Corinthians 6 As God’s co-workers we urge you not to receive God’s grace in vain

17 Therefore, “Come out from them
and be separate,
says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you.”[d]




Psalm 1

Blessed is the one
who does not walk in step with the wicked
or stand in the way that sinners take
or sit in the company of mockers,

2 but whose delight is in the law of the Lord,
and who meditates on his law day and night.

3 That person is like a tree planted by streams of water,
which yields its fruit in season
and whose leaf does not wither—
whatever they do prospers.

4 Not so the wicked!
They are like chaff
that the wind blows away.

5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.

6 For the Lord watches over the way of the righteous,

 

[Tull]

That is why I don't understand conservative anti-government sentiment. Some groups advocate for no government at all.

The definition of "anti-government" to,liberals,since you want to use labels,is any opposition to any government regulation or law other than those which would attempt to limit personal vice in any way or would attempt to impose personal responsibility in any way....to the liberal government has no limits and we have many examples of hwt life is like in countries where government has no limits.

 

[Tull]

Yes but not in the way you seem to be preaching it. That parable is about investing in the Gospel, and investing your treasure in heaven not in the stock market. Its about investing in the poor and needy, and even investing in your enemies welfare too. Its about letting your light shine so everyone can see how good and generous the Lord is, and give him glory. Doing good for your enemy is investing wisely, because the Lord said whoever hears and obeys his words will be considered a wise man. He said that people came from all over to hear Solomon's words, yet a greater wise man than Solomon is here. His name is the Lord.


Politics are contentious but the Lords ways are peace. It is better to give than receive. If people really want to leave a good inheritance to their Children, then they will teach them this. The commands of the Lord are better than Gold, and he says that its better to give than receive, and that's its evil to turn away from the poor when you are able to help them. He says if we turn away from the poor when they ask for help, then he will turn away from us when we ask Him for help. Is that what you want to leave your children?


Proverbs 3:13 Blessed are those who find wisdom,
those who gain understanding,

14 for she is more profitable than silver
and yields better returns than gold.

17 Her ways are pleasant ways,
and all her paths are peace.

18 She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her;
those who hold her fast will be blessed.

So where is the money for all of this investing going to come from and how much benefit are the poor and needy to the poor and needy,without wealth created in the marketplace there is no help for anyone....is this the manna from heaven plan where money and resources just drop out of the sky ?

 

[W2L]

So where is the money for all of this investing going to come from and how much benefit are the poor and needy to the poor and needy,without wealth created in the marketplace there is no help for anyone....is this the manna from heaven plan where money and resources just drop out of the sky ?

I was just correcting the misuse of a parable, and the lack of understanding that the scriptures teach us. However, to answer your question, If a man invests in a business and creates Jobs that's not bad. However, if a man invests in a mansion, luxury cars, expensive vacations, clothes and possessions. What will his return be? If we are talking about helping the poor, where is the return on such investments?

 

[W2L]

Where also is the return investment on political railing and dissension? Will it yield a harvest of spiritual fruit?

 

[Tull]

I was just correcting the misuse of a parable, and the lack of understanding that the scriptures teach us. However, to answer your question, If a man invests in a business and creates Jobs that's not bad. However, if a man invests in a mansion, luxury cars, expensive vacations, clothes and possessions. What will his return be? If we are talking about helping the poor, where is the return on such investments?

Who is going to decide what return he should have on his investment,not me or you,his wealth and what he does with it is between him and God....we are told that people's lives and how they live them are no ones business to judge,but everybody it seems is very very interested and ready to judge what other people do with their money.......wonder why.

 

[Tull]

Where also is the return investment on political railing and dissension? Will it yield a harvest of spiritual fruit?

Depends on what the issue is....if you think things like human life,the family etc is nothing more than politics then carry on

 

[W2L]

Who is going to decide what return he should have on his investment,not me or you,his wealth and what he does with it is between him and God....we are told that people's lives and how they live them are no ones business to judge,but everybody it seems is very very interested and ready to judge what other people do with their money.......wonder why.

Its not my business, you're right. I have stated time and again that I'm not interested in what the unbelievers or government does. I don't care what rich believers do either, but we are talking doctrine here. I'm not judging people, im judging only the proper way of the Gospel.

 

[W2L]

Depends on what the issue is....if you think things like human life,the family etc is nothing more than politics then carry on

I care about those things, that's why I'm against politics. All they do is destroy. They destroy peace and love. They also stain the Gospel with contentious rhetoric.

 

[Tull]

Its not my business, you're right. I have stated time and again that I'm not interested in what the unbelievers or government does. I don't care what rich believers do either, but we are talking doctrine here. I'm not judging people, im judging only the proper way of the Gospel.

Would you agree that money is of great interest to most people,even the ones who claim to have no interest.

 

[Tull]

I care about those things, that's why I'm against politics. All they do is destroy. They destroy peace and love. They also stain the Gospel with contentious rhetoric.

Then so do the ten commandments and any mention of the law in regard to human behavior.....just bible politics....the reason we have the gospel is because of broken laws and by contentious rhetoric you mean any separation of right from wrong.

A question,which is contentious rhetoric,arguing over the color of the new carpet for the church or what to do about the person having an open adulterous affair with another member in the church ?

 

[W2L]

Would you agree that money is of great interest to most people,even the ones who claim to have no interest.

Yes I would. However, money is deceitful. The Lord said that in the parable of the sower. It will deceive us just as the serpent deceived Eve. Wisdom is better than riches, and that comes by following the Lords commands. Its he who said not to store wealth on earth but in heaven.