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While we try to fix the world we divide the Church. We destroy the Church.


1 Peter 4:17King James Version (KJV)

17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
 
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While we try to fix the world we divide the Church. We destroy the Church.


1 Peter 4:17King James Version (KJV)

17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

There will be divisions,the concept of good and evil and sin and rightousness demands division,some divisions are petty and meaningless while others matter greatly.
 
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There will be divisions,the concept of good and evil and sin and rightousness demands division,some divisions are petty and meaningless while others matter greatly.

The reason we are divided in the church over politics is not because we are concerned about church business but worldly business. We are concerned with our money and property. The parable of the sower teaches us that such things will cause us to be unfruitful. Love not the world or the things in it.

Political division is a sin. Paul said we must be separate from the world because we have no agreement with them. Why then are you promoting that we should have agreement with them? Paul said we must all speak the same thing, and give glory to God in all things, and not to give any offence that the ministry not be blamed. Why then are you saying we can be divided over conservative and liberal idealism? Was Jesus a conservative Republican? Or a liberal democrat?
 
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Yes. The truth divides.

Yes, we have political Christians who divide the church over their love for worldly things, and we have non political Christians who seek the kingdom and not the world. What side of the truth are you on?
 
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They are deeply harming the people they pretend to help, and have gotten fat by doing so. What 'lovely' people.

We also have prosperity preachers who vote republican. They have gotten fat from their followers too. They sell their books and collect their hefty salaries. Both sides of the political isle are far from blameless.
 
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The reason we are divided in the church over politics is not because we are concerned about church business but worldly business. We are concerned with our money and property. The parable of the sower teaches us that such things will cause us to be unfruitful. Love not the world or the things in it.

Political division is a sin. Paul said we must be separate from the world because we have no agreement with them. Why then are you promoting that we should have agreement with them? Paul said we must all speak the same thing, and give glory to God in all things, and not to give any offence that the ministry not be blamed. Why then are you saying we can be divided over conservative and liberal idealism? Was Jesus a conservative Republican? Or a liberal democrat?

No,the reason we are divided is because some advocate open sin and rebellion,Jesus is the son of God and the giver of all law he is opposed to sin and unrightousness wherever it may happen,right,left and everything in between.....the so above it all approach is your business if you wish to go that way but the battle between good and evil goes on.
 
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No,the reason we are divided is because some advocate open sin and rebellion,Jesus is the son of God and the giver of all law he is opposed to sin and unrightousness wherever it may happen,right,left and everything in between.....the so above it all approach is your business if you wish to go that way but the battle between good and evil goes on.

America is not the Church. You are trying to force the Gospel onto the world instead of sharing love with them. It wont work. Its futile. You are playing a game that you cant win. Its rigged. Its all deception. Open your eyes.
 
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America is not the Church. You are trying to force the Gospel onto the world instead of sharing love with them. It wont work. Its futile. You are playing a game that you cant win. Its rigged. Its all deception. Open your eyes.

Now you are advocating lawlessness,government was ordained by God to regulate human behavior towards righteousness,they are currently failing but its better than anarchy
 
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Now you are advocating lawlessness,government was ordained by God to regulate human behavior towards righteousness,they are currently failing but its better than anarchy

No I'm not. You are advocating lawlessness when you advocate division in the Church over worldly matters, and advocate forcing the gospel onto unbelievers, instead of loving them and letting our light shine. Love fulfills the law. Its you who are advocating lawlessness.
 
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@thatbrian I am reminded of the following passage in scripture.
James 5
1 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
 
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A Black Lives Matter rioter said: 'Rich People Got all this Money and They Ain't Tryin' to Give Us None'

The sense of entitlement is breathtaking. To think that he, or anyone else, is entitled to someone else's money is at the heart of whats wrong with the BLM movement.

I feel sad for our fellow black citizens in America. This man was indeed "parroting" what he has been taught by the sound bite world of political marketing. The violence in the black community parrots what we all consume from Hollywood. The accessibility of guns used to emulate their ill-chosen hero's.

The odds are sooooo stacked against a young black child born into this society.
 
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The odds are sooooo stacked against a young black child born into this society.
Not this society, that culture.....
 
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In places where there is little homeownership or business ownership, there is little community ownership. They haven't burned down "their" neighborhood, because it not "theirs". In large part, they don't care because they don't own it, and they wont have to pay to repair it. You wont see black home or business owners out there torching the city.

This is a large part of why and how the system is flawed at its foundation. There is no ownership. There is no personal responsibility. There is no motivation to care. There is no motivation to thrive.

exactly! Most are renters and are burning others' property. Most people don't have the audacity to destroy their own stuff on purpose, even these clowns. I remember a shoe store got robbed one time and the work boots were what was left behind.
 
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