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[RDKirk]

Wouldn't the numbers say otherwise? I think more than double the whites are killed than blacks by police, and I think more blacks are likely to be confronted than whites to begin with. If anything.. those numbers tell me police have a bigger problem with white folks being idiots than blacks. Blacks resist less than whites, or at least try and kill police. Because everyone in this thread is saying police won't use that sort of force unless necessary, and so white folks seem to require it more than blacks. Whites are more dangerous to police than blacks.

I said: "That white suspects frequently survive contact with white police."

Statistically, 38% of young white men between 16 and 34 are arrested by the police (a huge number, btw). If they weren't frequently surviving those contacts, we'd be having a much different discussion right now.

There is no dispute that white men frequently survive contact with white police, so it's no surprise at all to hear a story of one doing so. Nor is it a surprise to hear of a white man surviving contact with the police even when he's not compliant.

 

[Moxie123]

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.


When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.


These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903

An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260)