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[AdamSK]

I got as far as this reading your posted article before I wanted to get in this guy's face.

Yes, because aggressive, emotion-laden rhetoric and physical threats are definitely the best way to change a person's mind.

Although in this case it might, since that situation actually would be a racist white man assaulting an innocent black man.

 

[JustOneWay]

Why is it that when people can no longer argue the facts, they start making the discussion about the arguer?

Why would my personal life have any bearing whatsoever on whether the things I describe are consistent with reality?

Reported as personal attack and off-topic.

Perhaps you should be reported for not providing proof for your comments?

Please post the evidence that states

That man had a gun on his thigh and, when told not to move at all, responded by reaching toward it.

 

[paul becke]

Brilliant article by John Gibbs over at the Federalist.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/07/11...ail&utm_term=0_cfcb868ceb-cbe167ab22-83889421

You are content for your country to be looked upon by the international community as a pariah state, then ? The only country to have moved from the first to the third world in one bound. In any case, I believe that in the majority of murders by rogue-police killers, the albinically-challenged victims were complying fully with the orders given to them by the officer(s) in question.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Why is it that when people can no longer argue the facts, they start making the discussion about the arguer?

Why would my personal life have any bearing whatsoever on whether the things I describe are consistent with reality?

Because there are other things consistent with reality that I'm interested in, but no one is forcing you to answer....same thing happened the last time I asked the question, so nothing new.

 

[Archivist]

Do you have any objective reason to do so?

Excited utterance by her vs. prepared comments by him.

 

[Hank77]

Great article. The media slant on stories draws the readers into the direction the media wants to instigate in a community. Evil bad police are racists and all black people are under threat because cops exist.

But the record of some of those who have made headlines of late doesn't show choir boys obeying orders. And that is the one thing that causes issues for any citizen stopped by police. Attitude, non-compliance, they fight, or whatever, the officer that is stopping them.
There's never been a report where a cop picks a random person and just walks up and beats them down. Or shoots them.
And then when they try to out-tough a cop and get the brunt of pepper spray, or whatever it is depending on the level of resistance that person showed, it's the cops fault. And the citizen is the poor victim.

The Washington Post
I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me.
It’s not the police, but the people they stop, who can prevent a detention from turning into a tragedy. By Sunil Dutta August 19, 2014



The Matt Walsh Blog
August 11, 2014
Police officers aren’t the ones destroying the black community
Matt Walsh

1) Hating all cops because some of them are abusive isn’t any more justifiable than hating all black people because some of them protested an officer involved shooting by burning down their own neighborhood.

In my opinion this first article is informative and practical.

The problem I see is that when someone complies, knowing that their civil rights are being violated or the state law is being broken, they can later appeal, write letters, etc. and nothing is done about it. The police continue to operate outside the law in many cases.
We can see this in many videos of things such as border crossings between states in the southwest, in DUI checkpoints, etc. Unless the driver stands up and demands that a supervisor be called, their rights and even the laws of the states are broken. This says to me that the underlings in the police departments are not being trained and instructed about the law, about what they can demand, and what they can't.
I don't want to live in a country where the people, we as citizens have to rely on, don't even know the laws that they are suppose to be upholding. Anymore than I would want to have to go to a surgeon that doesn't know what he/she is doing.

 

[Hank77]

Yes, because aggressive, emotion-laden rhetoric and physical threats are definitely the best way to change a person's mind.

Although in this case it might, since that situation actually would be a racist white man assaulting an innocent black man.

Hmm.....you must be one of those people who Act on what they WANT to do.

I tend to have some control so as not to act on something just because I FEEL a certain way.

You are content for your country to be looked upon by the international community as a pariah state, then ? The only country to have moved from the first to the third world in one bound. In any case, I believe that in the majority of murders by rogue-police killers, the albinically-challenged victims were complying fully with the orders given to them by the officer(s) in question.

Like your Steinbeck quote.

 

[AdamSK]

Excited utterance by her vs. prepared comments by him.

And the policeman's excited utterances?

 

[AdamSK]

You are content for your country to be looked upon by the international community as a pariah state, then ?

"The international community" consistently believes whatever is in their best interests to believe. Ideological consistency? Morality? Never a hint of it.

The only country to have moved from the first to the third world in one bound.

By what metric? Be quantitative please.

 

[AdamSK]

Hmm.....you must be one of those people who Act on what they WANT to do.
I tend to have some control so as not to act on something just because I FEEL a certain way.

Point taken. Incidentally, if I want to do something I know to be wrong, I work on modifying my attitudes so that I want to do the things I should do.

I learned that from reading the New Testament.

 

[Archivist]

And the policeman's excited utterances?

I clearly stated that I was talking about the statements by the lawyer in the article vs the girlfriends comments on the video. You are now trying to change the subject.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I got as far as this reading your posted article before I wanted to get in this guy's face. According to the people Castile had worked with, some for many years, and the kids at knew him, he was a well loved and respected man. The author has no problem defaming people and I suspect he did it for some personal gain. He show's himself to be a backbiter, imo.

It saddens me that what little is left of the black civil rights movement is spent defending thugs, hustlers, drug dealers, and troublemakers such as Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Freddie Gray, Alton Sterling, and Philando Castile.

The author of the piece is black, so he can't be wrong, and you disagreeing with him shows that you are a racist.

* Hopefully you get my point, above. It's the kind of "argument" that conservatives have to listen to everyday.

 

[paul becke]

"The international community" consistently believes whatever is in their best interests to believe. Ideological consistency? Morality? Never a hint of it.


By what metric? Be quantitative please.

You still don't get it, do you ? Only Mr Magoo would ask for a metric, when something is common knowledge. You may cite any amount of putatively scientiifc studies, but atheist science has long been bought and paid for, and become the butt of humour and contempt in the eyes of the public. One example : You don't need scientific studies to confirm that your electoral system would disgrace a banana republic.

 

[RDKirk]

I am not so sure. Given the situation with guns, police officers have legitimate fears that a person may be armed. You appear to believe that the cops can be trained to deal with that fear by implementing certain "procedures" when dealing with the public that ensure that "unjustified" shootings are reduced to an exceedingly low level. I just wonder whether that is realistic - there are simply so many ways a "bad guy" could get to his gun that I suspect there may not be a way for police to reduce that threat to near-zero simply by procedures.

Training affects behavior...which is why people are trained for anything.

There may or may not still be fear (although training can allay a great deal of the fear that not knowing how to behave creates). Certain procedures can give police better control of the situation than many of them have--the "best practices" are not a matter of natural intuition, they are things police departments have learned over years of practice...but they haven't been standardized, not even within most departments. Most police officers seem to be "winging it."

 

[paul becke]

"The international community" consistently believes whatever is in their best interests to believe. Ideological consistency? Morality? Never a hint of it.

Well that can be said of the right wing in spades. It is a spiritual axiom that if you do not progress, you regress, so by very definition the right wing is unregenerate.

By what metric? Be quantitative please.

It's called common knowledge. Something known by taxi-drivers from Tierra del Fuego to Timbuktoo. You appear to be 'into' scientism, the belief that everything can be measured and quantified or it doesn't exist. Not smart thinking.

 

[Hank77]

The author of the piece is black, so he can't be wrong, and you disagreeing with him shows that you are a racist.

* Hopefully you get my point, above. It's the kind of "argument" that conservatives have to listen to everyday.

I've never been called racist because I disagreed with one other person who happened to be a minority of a different race or ethnic group. Sorry to hear that you have, that is a silly argument to say the least.

 

[AdamSK]

You still don't get it, do you ? Only Mr Magoo would ask for a metric, when something is common knowledge.

Only the intellectually lazy or dishonest refuse to provide evidence for something they claim.

 

[AdamSK]

I clearly stated that I was talking about the statements by the lawyer in the article vs the girlfriends comments on the video. You are now trying to change the subject.

Since the policemen also makes comments on the video, and they corroborate the lawyers' statements, why are the girlfriend's comments more credible?

 

[AdamSK]

I've never been called racist because I disagreed with one other person who happened to be a minority of a different race or ethnic group. Sorry to hear that you have, that is a silly argument to say the least.

It's very common for SJWs to say "shut up and listen" when anyone not in a particular minority group wants to be involved in a discussion they consider relevant to that group.

 

[JustOneWay]

The author of the piece is black, so he can't be wrong, and you disagreeing with him shows that you are a racist.

* Hopefully you get my point, above. It's the kind of "argument" that conservatives have to listen to everyday.

Prove that argument is used here. If you can't then you have no reason to post such an illogical comment.