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[sunlover1]

Really, can you give me a coherent definition of sola scriptura?

SS does negate hearing God's voice depending on how you define the term "hearing God's voice."

I define it the same way Scripture does.
Read the book, find what it says, and go with that.
Yes I can give you a coherent def of SS, we're on
the internet. We can all google that.
I'm talking about spending the last ten years here
in GT fighting to prove that God's word is forever
settled in Heaven, that Scripture is alive... etc.
His telling me to pray for someone doesn't mean that
it's "new revelation" it's new for ME, but not for
the church.
I've never been to the Grand Canyon, but i
believe by faith that it's there. you've never
heard that voice of God, but that doesn't mean
that millions of Christians throughout history
are liars

 

[Extraneous]

O boy, it always ends the same. I'm going to go be like a tree planted by rivers of water.

 

[Winter_Rose]

O boy, it always ends the same. I'm going to go be like a tree planted by rivers of water.

That sounds quite poetic.

 

[faroukfarouk]

That sounds quite poetic.

It's in Psalm 1.3...

 

[vinsight4u]

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[sunlover1]

That sounds quite poetic.

Who's waxing poetic?
lol if you were referencing my post.

It's in Psalm 1.3...

 

[faroukfarouk]

Just referring to the context...

 

[sunlover1]

I have been there, it is beautiful. We are not liars
about hearing God either. Finally caught up on this
thread. People seem to wonder how do you know if
a holy being speaks or a wicked one. If we submit
ourselves to God -then the devil has no choice but
to flee away. Like that part you reminded us -His
word is forever settled in heaven.
You also brought up Him telling you to pray for someone.
That happened to me one time and more at doctors'
offices. The one time was so strong to tell him about Jesus
Christ now. Maybe a few weeks or so later, this seemingly
heathly man died. Another one would see my sight healed.
When I was first ill. I just figured -you go to the doctor, get
something to take and soon you are fine again. It didn't work
that way though for me back then. It amazed me that doctors
had not seen outright miracles before. My eye specialist -
get used to it
me - God can heal me
him-get used to it
me -I'm a Christian -God will can fix it
him -hee or such
me-Haven't you seen a miracle before? You have
probably seen lots of them, since you work with
people's eyes.
him-no-never -
me -Get ready, because you will see one. God will
heal my sight. Then you can never again say that you
never saw a miracle from God.
him - hhhh-doubted it

oh i know! lol.
I remember one year the eye guy said my pressure
was high, I said yeah, granny has glaucoma.
he said you better keep an eye on that.
I said, yeah, it will be normal next time
he asked how, I said GOD is my healer! woot!
Funny because I have the faith that God will
heal the pressure, but no faith for improving
my 'getting old' vision. Funny how that works!
Glad you're in covenant, happy for you!!

SN :/
I hate to share this news as we speak of healing,
but Stan passed as soon as they took him off of
life support this am.
I will assume he has gone to be with God.
Which means it's a time of celebration for him!
(Not really sure how that works, but to be absent
from the body is to be present with God.
GOd bless everyone who prayed for him.

 

[sunlover1]

Just referring to the context...

Oh, i thought that guy was laughing lol

 

[vinsight4u]

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[sunlover1]

I was thinking about this thread.
None of us is infallible and all we can do really,
is try our best to know God and to understand
His Word (Scripture, caps).
So if God says that His sheep know His voice,
wouldn't that mean that sometimes or another
somehow or another, we will hear Him, and
that if we have NOT heard Him, it's not that we're
not His, it's just that we haven't had faith yet to
do it?
I mean, His Kingdom operates by faith, everything
is of faith, and in fact, without faith it's impossible
to please Him!
We're saved through faith, we walk in faith, He says
to fight the good FIGHT of 'faith'. He says that He
even counts faith toward us as righteousness! So maybe
we just need to look at it through those eyes, rather
than the eyes of 'reason'.
No, I'm NOT advocating leaving the brain at the door!
Just saying that sometimes we have to step out in faith,
just like "Till" did with Kevin in Michigan. COmeon, that
was pure blind faith! He saw what he thought may or may
not be a vision and traveled all that way to check it! lol.
Now that he's experienced God in such a way, he will be
more equipped next time and then more and more with
each passing "experience"! (Yeah, that dirty little word for
how we interact with Almighty God our Father!)
Anyhow, just musing about why some hear and others dont.
carry on

 

[sunlover1]

The souls and spirits go to heaven. Paul wanted to depart
to be with Lord. Peter knew that he would soon put off
his tabernacle/tent/die. My prayers are with the family and
their friends. including you and your son

Thank you, I appreciate that very much.
I thought paul couldn't decide if he should go or stay
another thread. forgive me thatbrian for my part in derailment.

 

[Don Maurer]

... snip...
Yes I can give you a coherent def of SS, we're on
the internet. We can all google that.

Thats not a problem, feel free to google the word sola scriptura and give me a full explanation of what is being said in whatever article you choose. Just please give me at least something to show that you have an idea of what is being taught int he doctrine.

His telling me to pray for someone doesn't mean that
it's "new revelation" it's new for ME, but not for
the church.

To clarify what I understand our difference to be here let me say:
Apostolic oral special revelation can be the same thing as apostolic written revelation. This is clear in 2nd Thes 2:15.
So then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye were taught, whether by word, or by epistle of ours.
The apostolic oral revelation is also made clear in 2 Thes 2:5
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things
When Paul was with the Thessalonian Church, he gave oral revelation about the same things that he later gave a written revelation in the book of 2 Thessalonians. The material was essentially the same.

What happens in the scriptures is very different from what you are claiming. If you were to practice the same thing as Paul, after God gave you an oral revelation, you would write in down and then add it to the back of the New Testament. Please answer this question... "why is no one attempting to add what God told them to the end of the New Testament today." You claim the same oral special revelation as the prophets and apostles, why do you fail to get it written down at the end of the Bible?

I've never been to the Grand Canyon, but i
believe by faith that it's there. you've never
heard that voice of God, but that doesn't mean
that millions of Christians throughout history
are liars

I have never been to the imperial death star and met the galactic emperor. Neither do I believe that the force exists because it is outside the biblical word view. Even if you claimed to have been to the death star and gained the force, I would not believe you because it is not within a correct biblical world view. (No offense intended to anyone, not even star wars fans ).

sunlover1, to decode what I said above, I really do not think that hearing the voice of God is on the same level as the existence of the Grand Canyon. We are debating that issue but you make statements that assume it to be true (As true as the Grand Canyon).

 

[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[sunlover1]

Thats not a problem, feel free to google the word sola scriptura and give me a full explanation of what is being said in whatever article you choose. Just please give me at least something to show that you have an idea of what is being taught int he doctrine.

I'm not wasting time for this.
Just say whatever it is you're getting at.

To clarify what I understand our difference to be here let me say:
Apostolic oral special revelation can be the same thing as apostolic written revelation. This is clear in 2nd Thes 2:15.
So then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye were taught, whether by word, or by epistle of ours.
The apostolic oral revelation is also made clear in 2 Thes 2:5
Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things
When Paul was with the Thessalonian Church, he gave oral revelation about the same things that he later gave a written revelation in the book of 2 Thessalonians. The material was essentially the same.

Only if you think that paul wrote down every experience he had with his Father.

What happens in the scriptures is very different from what you are claiming.

No, what happens in the Scriptures you're CHOOSING, is very different from what I am sharing.

If you were to practice the same thing as Paul, after God gave you an oral revelation, you would write in down and then add it to the back of the New Testament. Please answer this question... "why is no one attempting to add what God told them to the end of the New Testament today." You claim the same oral special revelation as the prophets and apostles, why do you fail to get it written down at the end of the Bible?

God isn't using me to speak to the gentiles,
HUGE stretch to even suggest that it's the same level.

sunlover1, to decode what I said above, I really do not think that hearing the voice of God is on the same level as the existence of the Grand Canyon. We are debating that issue but you make statements that assume it to be true (As true as the Grand Canyon).

Actually, truER than the grand canyon.
God's Word (Scripture, which is where HE says that HE speaks to HIS kids,
regardless of what YOU think, no offense intended either ) Is forEVER
settled in Heaven, things that are seen are created by the unseen, so indeed
His Word is truth and here is your argument, it's with God, not with me
I just happen to 'believe' it.
I 'get' why you don't 'get' it. But that's just the way it will have to be.
Living in a nearly exclusively calvinistic region all of my life, i can say that
many Calvinists would disagree with you, and live their lives entirely by His
voice.
"Man shall... live... by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God"
SS.
But again, does that matter? Doesn't matter to me what you think of my
experiences with my FAther, not to be rude, but I can't be concerned with
your opinions when they go against Scripture plus my own history with God.

 

[sunlover1]

Just curious did you take a pause first to ask God
if He would heal that pressure in your eye/s? I did.
I then with confidence that it would happen told the
Dr. that God would work a miracle.

No, but i did later.
I should have done it right then?
Never even thought of that, how selfish, sheesh!
Paul's vision was poor iirc.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Don Maurer]

bummer, addressed a post not intended for me. please delete

 

[Don Maurer]

ak, now I am really messing up, blush. can anyone send me a message on how to delete posts?