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[jimmyjimmy]

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[sunlover1]

Not all Christians are Sola Scriptura adherants, and that may account for some of the
strange views in GT.
OTOH, we can find some strange interpretations of Scripture too, and we have milk
drinker, meat eaters and all shades of in-between

 

[Tigger45]

I've had a few different spiritual experiences, all in different denominations. Some could be described as the shells were removed from my eyes and others probably leaned more to feelings and being caught up in the moment. But at the end of the day those experiences served more as oasis' in the desert of my journey through the valley of death then a an all encompassing catechisis on God's will for my eternal life. If I were going to bet my life on it 'and we do' it's that the truth=God's word shall set us free.

 

[sunlover1]

I've had a few different spiritual experiences, all in different denominations. Some could be described as the shells were removed from my eyes and others probably leaned more to feelings and being caught up in the moment. But at the end of the day those experiences served more as oasis' in the desert of my journey through the valley of death then a an all encompassing catechisis on God's will for my eternal life. If I were going to bet my life on it 'and we do' it's that the truth=God's word shall set us free.

This is precious.
And amen to God's blessing us with some hope in desert times.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

If I were going to bet my life on it 'and we do' it's that the truth=God's word shall set us free.

Glad to hear it. I agree with everything you said, the last sentence especially.

 

[Tigger45]

This is precious.
And amen to God's blessing us with some hope in desert times.

Exactly hope in desert times. And I often tried to make intellectual, doctrinal, theological reasonings of these experiences while I believe now God was primarily trying to sooth my emotional needs during those period of times in my life.

 

[sunlover1]

Exactly hope in desert times. And I often tried to make intellectual, doctrinal, theological reasonings of these experiences while I believe now God was primarily trying to sooth my emotional needs during those period of times in my life.

I relate because most of my life's been a "desert time"!
Sometimes I wonder if He must think we're so silly when we try to "explain" such things.
Humans trying to describe ... God
Yet we continue to expect others to have all the answers lol

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I wonder if the people described here felt God's presence and were reassured by it.

"On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’"

 

[sunlover1]

I wonder if the people described here felt God's presence and were reassured by it.

"On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’"

Point?

 

[Rick Otto]

Should our understanding of God (theology) be based on our own reasoning or feelings, or on the texts of holy scripture?

Given a written exam, most Protestant Christians would agree with the statement, “the Bible is our only rule for faith and practice”; however, spend more than an hour on CF, and you will discover that, in practice, many trust their feelings, intuition, experiences, and even their goosebumps over the what the written written Word of God has declared.

I asked someone for a biblical backing for a statement he/she made. This was the reply: "you don't need to reference a book to understand reality." It's a perfect example of what I see on CF, and it explains the question I'm asking.

What's your theology based on?

What she said resonates perfectly with the opening lines of psalm 19:
So with all due respect, why defy God's word with a narrow understanding and divisive attitude?
I'm sure we mean well, but it comes off pretty condescending to those we despise.

 

[Rick Otto]

Point?

Tsk, Tsk. You are too self sacrificing here, sis. Don't put your head on the chopping block.
I have measured the love among both Catholic and Charismatic congregations.
No matter wherever, it gets cold up there on moral high ground.

 

[Rick Otto]

I wonder if the people described here felt God's presence and were reassured by it... ~"

I wonder if that question could be asked sincerely.

 

[sunlover1]

Tsk, Tsk. You are too self sacrificing here, sis. Don't put your head on the chopping block.
I have measured the love among both Catholic and Charismatic congregations.
No matter wherever, it gets cold up there on moral high ground.

Hey now, I was raised C and seem to be kind of C as an adult now

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Point?

The people in question (Matthew 7) seem to be relying on their works, and the type of works they listed are the sensational type, which typically goes along with the tingly feelings, so I wonder if they, during their lives, derived comfort and assurance because they had the warm-fuzzes in the midst of their casting out demons and prophesy.

 

[Rick Otto]

Hey now, I was raised C and seem to be kind of C as an adult now

Yeah, whaddevah. You treat me right, so believe what ya want. I know you don't orgy or eat babies... right?

lol

 

[Rick Otto]

The people in question (Matthew 7) seem to be relying on their works, and the type of works they listed are the sensational type, which typically goes along with the tingly feelings, so I wonder if they, during their lives, derived comfort and assurance because they had the warm-fuzzes in the midst of their casting out demons and prophesy.

Aww, c'mon. That's a reach.
Of course they had warm fuzzies. You say that like you don't have warm fuzzies about what I call Churchianity.
So go ahead... try and guilt trip me some more about my my warm fuzzies, because it entertains me to watch hypocrisy display itself.

 

[sunlover1]

The people in question (Matthew 7) seem to be relying on their works, and the type of works they listed are the sensational type, which typically goes along with the tingly feelings, so I wonder if they, during their lives, derived comfort and assurance because they had the warm-fuzzes in the midst of their casting out demons and prophesy.

Again i have to ask "why?" would you equate the two!
Who's relying on works.. wait, did i miss something?
THere are bad guys who pretend and there are charlatans
but there are also good Christian men and women who
love God and sometimes "feel" His presence.
Have you never 'felt' it?

 

[sunlover1]

Yeah, whaddevah. You treat me right, so believe what ya want. I know you don't orgy or eat babies... right?

lol

Ummmmmm lol. alrighty then.
Guess you got my number.
No, the basis for my theology is Jesus Christ,
and sometimes He gives me warm fuzzies but that's just a bonus!
Are we good?

 

[stage five]

Should our understanding of God (theology) be based on our own reasoning or feelings, or on the texts of holy scripture?

Given a written exam, most Protestant Christians would agree with the statement, “the Bible is our only rule for faith and practice”; however, spend more than an hour on CF, and you will discover that, in practice, many trust their feelings, intuition, experiences, and even their goosebumps over the what the written written Word of God has declared.

I asked someone for a biblical backing for a statement he/she made. This was the reply: "you don't need to reference a book to understand reality." It's a perfect example of what I see on CF, and it explains the question I'm asking.

What's your theology based on?

Many who say the bible is their rule of faith have simply found of way to argue their views are consistent with the bible.

Our understanding of God should be based on our experience of God.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Our understanding of God should be based on our experience of God.

OK. How can you prove that to me? What's the basis for your assertion?