7 Days of Creation - 7,000 Years of History - End Times

[lifepsyop]

There are several older threads on the 7,000 year idea but I wanted to start a new discussion, which will hopefully shed some new light for me on this topic.

Basically the main idea is that Earth today is only around 6,000 years old, with the final 1,000 years being after the return of Jesus Christ and his millenial reign. And this unfolding of all the history of the world was encoded into the Creation week written in Genesis.

- Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. (This right here I think is a big hint that the end-times are somehow reflected in the beginning-times, and vise versa.. the End is told from the Beginning)

- God says one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years is as one day.
- 1,000 years also appears to be sort of an ultimate time distinction with regards to Jesus Christ's 1,000 year reign in the Book of Revelation.
- And using the Creation week as a basis, the number 7 seems to be the ultimate number in terms of iterations of time. (Of course 7 iterations are repeated many other places, e.g. the fall of Jericho, and all through Revelation)
- Thus these seem to be pretty big clues that we're dealing with 7 milleniums, or a 7,000 year timeline of history.

So then we look at Creation week in Genesis... I believe in each Day of creation we are seeing the numerous stories reflected throughout the rest of the Bible, and most importantly the story of Jesus Christ himself.

Day 1 - From the void of darkness, the creation of Light.
Jesus was that light from the beginning of creation, the one way and the truth that divides good from evil, truth from lies.
1st Millenium - the time of Adam
Adam and Eve wanted to be like God, knowing Good from Evil (or Light from Darkness) and thus the fall and the curse of creation.

Day 2 - The firmament separating the waters
The creation of the space, or the 'womb' even, that will divide the waters from the waters. (water is often used in the Bible to refer to multitudes of people, so I see this as hinting that Jesus will be the dividing line between peoples)
And if the next day is a clue, then the firmament could even be interpreted as the womb of Mary being opened up for the Seed of Jesus Christ.
2nd Millenium - the time of Noah
The cleansing water that separated God's people (Noah's family) from the rest of the world which was destroyed in that flood of water.

Day 3 - The seas, land, and herb/fruit-yielding seeds
The lineage and the seed of Christ and his approaching birth (fruit of the Womb) is being established on the earth.
The red SEA is parted, as God's people go in search of the promised LAND, where the the generations/SEED of Israel will become multiplied
3rd Millenium - The time of Abraham
God's promise to Abraham that his seed will give birth to a great nation, as well as the time of Moses and the Exodus.

Day 4 - The Sun, Moon, and Stars
Jesus Christ is that righteous Sun that will light the world.
John the Baptist could be viewed as the Moon -
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. - John 1:8
Just as the moon as not the true light, but a reflection of the true light of the Sun (Jesus)
Perhaps the stars are the nation of Israel, as God said they would be as numerous as the stars.
4th Millenium - The time of the nation of Israel's reign, concluding in the birth of Jesus.
Just as the wise men were guided to Jesus by a star in heaven, so the stars a sign leading to Jesus the rising Sun, just as the moon at night (John the Baptist) was a reflection of that approaching morning star.

Day 5 - The first creation of Life
Just as the this is the first day that life is established (fish of the sea and birds of the air) - This is the Eternal Life that was made possible by Jesus Christ's death and resurrection.
I think the focus on sea life and 'heavenly' life, may be an allusion to baptism by water and the descending dove.
5th Millenium - The time of the Church of Christ, where the gospel begins to be spread all over the world.
"Let the waters bring forth abundantly" - Let Christ's followers spread the gospel and bring forth new believers.... Saving souls like men catch fish.

Day 6 - The rise of the Beast
Creation of Man - the agent which initiates the fall of creation, the end of Eden, and the creation and ascent of Beasts.
6th Millenium - The time of men falling away from Christ and following the beast (anti-christ) in the last days. The references in Revelation to "the beast", and the number of the beast, being the number of man, 666, begin to make sense here. This is the last millenium before God's wrath is poured out on the earth and Jesus Christ returns, the thousand years we are about to conclude.

Day 7 - Rest - Christ's Kingdom
Solomon's throne resting upon the 6 steps.
The earth rests after God's judgment upon it.
7th Millenium - Jesus Christ's millenial reign described in the book of Revelation.

It's finally beginning to make sense to me how Jesus Christ is the beginning and the end, the foundation and cornerstone of all things, Jesus Christ the Word made flesh, reflected in every verse of the Bible as one holy fractal image. I am truly in awe at the beauty and majesty of God's word.

Anyways, I think we must be very close to the 6,000 year mark before the 7th and final millenium begins. I do not hold any of man's chronologies as sacrosanct so I do not know what the exact year is today, but it must surely be close.

Very interested in any other thoughts on this topic.

God Bless and Thanks for reading.

 

[Ken Rank]

That's pretty interesting. Just to add to this... we don't study the feasts because of the mistaken notion that they have no meaning to us today. But each feast was designed around a real event, but one that points to various aspects of messiah's work. Passover is an easy one... it is dealing with redemption... being bought back by God.

But what most don't realize is that, in Lev. 23 where the feasts are listed, the first one is the Sabbath. The Sabbath is also pointing at messiah's work and like the other feasts, has prophetic significance. In the case of Sabbath... we work 6 days and rest 1. We toil, sweat and decay for 6 days just as we have for 6000 years. And on the 7th day we rest and become refreshed, just as we will do in the 7000th years... the Millennial Kingdom.

 

[RichardY]

I don't believe the world is 6,000 to 7,000 years old. I think it misses the point of the story, of The Garden of Eden.

That man should not seek to justify himself. But should be justified in the Lord.

Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of them both were opened, and they [h]knew that they were naked, and they sewed fig tree leaves together, and made themselves breeches.

 

[lifepsyop]

That's pretty interesting. Just to add to this... we don't study the feasts because of the mistaken notion that they have no meaning to us today. But each feast was designed around a real event, but one that points to various aspects of messiah's work. Passover is an easy one... it is dealing with redemption... being bought back by God.

The Passover is a beautiful allusion to Jesus.. where the people are protected from destruction by entering under the doorway marked by the blood of the lamb. That's one of the awesome things about the Bible... the more you read and understand it, the more you realize how everything in it is a reflection of Jesus.

But what most don't realize is that, in Lev. 23 where the feasts are listed, the first one is the Sabbath. The Sabbath is also pointing at messiah's work and like the other feasts, has prophetic significance. In the case of Sabbath... we work 6 days and rest 1. We toil, sweat and decay for 6 days just as we have for 6000 years. And on the 7th day we rest and become refreshed, just as we will do in the 7000th years... the Millennial Kingdom.

Yes, thanks for emphasizing the main point a little better. Earth history is the history of God's work, which is reflected in the sabbath week.

God's creative work was 6 days, thus we could expect his work on the history of the Earth would conclude in 6 things as well. (Milleniums) .... with God's Rest being on the 7th.

 

[lifepsyop]

I don't believe the world is 6,000 to 7,000 years old. I think it misses the point of the story, of The Garden of Eden.

I don't think God would have emphasized the days and times, as well as so much geneaology, if he didn't want us to treat it as actual history.

When the Bible says that God created the world and everything in it, in 6 days, and where the genealogies are traced back to Adam, I'm just going to take Him at his word and believe it. But I'd rather not get sidetracked with that issue.

 

[RichardY]

Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

 

[lifepsyop]

Or more to the point...

If God's 7th day Rest is an equal time unit to the preceding 6 days, then we could expect 6 equivalent time units to precede Jesus Christ's 1,000 year reign on Earth.

Thus 7,000 years total, with the end times of the Book of Revelation unfolding at the end of the first 6,000 years, (Because the last 1,000 years with Jesus is the "Rest" period.)

So according to this idea, we would be very close to the end of that 6,000 year period.

 

[parousia70]

Or more to the point...

If God's 7th day Rest is an equal time unit to the preceding 6 days, then we could expect 6 equivalent time units to precede Jesus Christ's 1,000 year reign on Earth.

Thus 7,000 years total, with the end times of the Book of Revelation unfolding at the end of the first 6,000 years, (Because the last 1,000 years with Jesus is the "Rest" period.)

So according to this idea, we would be very close to the end of that 6,000 year period.

I believe this:

Deuteronomy 7:9
Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations,

Psalm 105:8
He remembers his covenant forever, the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations,

If we take a generation to mean 70 years, and a generation is people being born, growing up, giving birth, growing old and dying, then we are on solid scriptural footing to believe and profess that God has ordained 70,000 years of keeping his covenant to generations of Humans on earth who are being born, growing up, giving birth, growing old any dying..

if we are 6000 years in, then we've got another 64,000 years to go.

Of course, you'd have to believe that things like 1000 years, and 1000 generations are LITERAL for this to work.

 

[lifepsyop]

I believe this:

Deuteronomy 7:9
Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations,

Psalm 105:8
He remembers his covenant forever, the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations,

If we take a generation to mean 70 years, and a generation is people being born, growing up, giving birth, growing old and dying, then we are on solid scriptural footing to believe and profess that God has ordained 70,000 years of keeping his covenant to generations of Humans on earth who are being born, growing up, giving birth, growing old any dying..

if we are 6000 years in, then we've got another 64,000 years to go.

Of course, you'd have to believe that things like 1000 years, and 1000 generations are LITERAL for this to work.

Within these verses I see a literal contradiction.

Psalm 105:8
He remembers his covenant forever, the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations,

So is it "forever" or "for a thousand generations?" Taken literally, it can't be both, right? This tells me God is simply emphasizing the power of his covenant, and not speaking literally abouth a length of time.

Besides that it just feels very awkward to have 4000 years to Christ, and then 66,000 years on the other side of that. It feels incredibly lopsided... On the other hand, 2,000 years A.D. seems to have been sufficient time for the gospel of Christ to have been spread across the whole world.

I think the history of the world reflects God's ultimate design, and thus will be reflected in proportion throughout all of scripture, which is why the "6 things and a 7th" pattern that we're given from the beginning of creation seems fitting as a reflection of all time leading to the end and Christ's return.

 

[keras]

I don't believe the world is 6,000 to 7,000 years old.

The earth and the universe are much older, as we can prove from geology, astronomy, etc.
But God's Plan for mankind is only for 7000 years.
As lifepsyop correctly says. we are now nearly at the end of the 6th 1000 year period. I have a time line using time periods as given in the Bible to prove this.

 

[Messenger 3k]

The earth and the universe are much older, as we can prove from geology, astronomy, etc.

This is scriptural how?

 

[keras]

This is scriptural how?

Are scientific and historical knowledge, as well as common sense; not allowable?

 

[Messenger 3k]

Are scientific and historical knowledge, as well as common sense; not allowable?

They are, if they align with scripture.

 

[RichardY]

The earth and the universe are much older, as we can prove from geology, astronomy, etc.
But God's Plan for mankind is only for 7000 years.
As lifepsyop correctly says. we are now nearly at the end of the 6th 1000 year period. I have a time line using time periods as given in the Bible to prove this.

Yes, even as a rule of thumb, it's doesn't make sense that the world would be 7,000 years old.

I could believe that the world will come to an end in 2033. A Newton end date.

So, what was the end date you came up with?

 

[lifepsyop]

4 is a number associated with material reality.

On the 4th day, the material creation was complete (heavens, earth, vegetation, oceans, sun, moon, stars)
Life (blood/moving flesh) did not begin until after the 4 days.

4 is a number of wilderness ... wandering ... being lost or separated. (40 days of rain during the flood, 40 days of Jesus in the wilderness, 40 years of Israel wandering in the wilderness, etc.)

The earth is our wilderness where we wander. And just as Life was created after the 4th day, after 4,000 years of Earth history.... the true Life appeared in the person of Jesus Christ.

 

[keras]

Yes, even as a rule of thumb, it's doesn't make sense that the world would be 7,000 years old.

I could believe that the world will come to an end in 2033. A Newton end date.

So, what was the end date you came up with?

I said the world was very much older that 7000 years. But God's Plan for mankind is for that time, commencing 5989 years ago with Adam.

Newtons date was 2060, if I remember correctly. He, like all the prophecy experts up until now, could not know the end times, Daniel 12:9

The earth and the universe will never end. Eccl 1:4, Psalms 78:90, Ephesians 3:21

 

[parousia70]

Within these verses I see a literal contradiction.

Psalm 105:8
He remembers his covenant forever, the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations,

So is it "forever" or "for a thousand generations?" Taken literally, it can't be both, right? This tells me God is simply emphasizing the power of his covenant, and not speaking literally abouth a length of time.

I could buy into that.

Besides that it just feels very awkward to have 4000 years to Christ, and then 66,000 years on the other side of that. It feels incredibly lopsided...

I'm Not sure I understand your objection?

Are we not in the age of the "EVERLASTING GOSPEL"?

Does the Everlasting Gospel have a "use by" or "expiration date"?
(It's not cottage cheese after all)

How could it be "everlasting" if it in fact is NOT everlasting?
How is that also NOT a literal contradiction?

Aren't you looking forward to spending Eternity alive with Christ?
I am.

4000 years to Christ, then ETERNITY with Christ?
That's Pretty lopsided, wouldn't you say?

Again, I'm simply unclear about the basis of your objection?
If God wishes to spend eternity saving sinners, what's not to love and support about that?

On the other hand, 2,000 years A.D. seems to have been sufficient time for the gospel of Christ to have been spread across the whole world.

According to Paul, a few Decades was sufficient for accomplishing that:

Colossians 1:5-6 because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, 6 which has come to you, as it has also in all the world, and is bringing forth fruit, as it is also among you since the day you heard and knew the grace of God in truth;

Colossians 1:23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.

In Matthew 24:14, the Greek word for preached is kerusso, it is in the future tense. But in Colossians 1:23the same word kerusso is in the aorist tense (past). Jesus said that it is to be preached and Paul says in AD 62, that it has been preached to every creature. Paul also said that the faith of the Romans was spoken of throughout the whole world.

Romans 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

Paul said that the gospel was made known to all nations.

Romans 16:25-26 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began 26 but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith;

Many today say that the gospel has not been preached to all the world and Matthew 24:14 has not yet been fulfilled. The Bible says that all the nations of the world heard the gospel preached before AD 70. Who are you going to believe? To deny that Matthew 24:14 has been fulfilled is to deny the clear statements of God's Holy Word.

I think the history of the world reflects God's ultimate design, and thus will be reflected in proportion throughout all of scripture, which is why the "6 things and a 7th" pattern that we're given from the beginning of creation seems fitting as a reflection of all time leading to the end and Christ's return.

Rather, Scripture teaches that the earth and material cosmos will exist forever (Ecc 1:4; Ps 78:69; 89:36-37; 104:5; 148:4-6; Eph 3:21) and that human generations are unending and perpetual (Ps 145:13; Dan 4:3,34; Dan 7:14,18,27; Lk 1:33)