7 Day creation- literal or figurative?

Gen 2 is not in chronological order as Gen 1---Gen 2 does not give any days. They are the same creation.

mmksparbud said:

Gen 2 is not in chronological order as Gen 1---Gen 2 does not give any days. They are the same creation.

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Complementary creation.
Genesis 1
Day 6 is about the creation by God of the BEASTS OF THE EARTH which are wild animals and the creation of nomads humans to fill the Earth.

While Genesis 2 is about the creation of the BEASTS OF THE FIELD which are
FARM ANIMALS in the GARDEN OF EDEN .

Adam is the first farmer /

-while that the wild animals and the nomads humans who were created by God on the 6th Day have the role to replenish the surface of the Earth and and subdue it ...

Genesis 1
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Replenish means refill the Earth .


....ADAM and Eve where in the Garden of Eden isolated from the rest of humanity for a special purpose, a test which they failed [Genesis 3...]

Genesis 1:28
and Elohiym respected them, and Elohiym said to them, reproduce and increase and fill the land and subdue her, and rule in the fish of the sea and in the flyers of the skies, and in all the living ones treading upon the land,


The original does not use the word "replenish"

There is no such distinction between the 2-it is the same account.
Genesis 1:24
and Elohiym said, the land will bring out living beings to her kind, beasts and treaders and living ones of the land to her kind, and he existed so,
Genesis 1:25
and Elohiym made living ones of the land to her kind and the beast to her kind and all of the treaders of the ground to his kind, and Elohiym saw that it was functional,
Genesis 2:19
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded from the ground all the living ones of the field, and all the flyers of the skies, and he brought to the human to see what he will call out to him and all the living beings which the human will call out to him, that is his title,

Gen 2 talks about the details of the trees and about the garden and the tree of life, the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the river that split into 4---all the things not in the day by day description of what happened each day. The fact that there was no rain, but a mist, It is the same account with details, that is all.

mmksparbud said:

Genesis 1:28
and Elohiym respected them, and Elohiym said to them, reproduce and increase and fill the land and subdue her, and rule in the fish of the sea and in the flyers of the skies, and in all the living ones treading upon the land,


The original does not use the word "replenish"

There is no such distinction between the 2-it is the same account.
Genesis 1:24
and Elohiym said, the land will bring out living beings to her kind, beasts and treaders and living ones of the land to her kind, and he existed so,
Genesis 1:25
and Elohiym made living ones of the land to her kind and the beast to her kind and all of the treaders of the ground to his kind, and Elohiym saw that it was functional,
Genesis 2:19
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded from the ground all the living ones of the field, and all the flyers of the skies, and he brought to the human to see what he will call out to him and all the living beings which the human will call out to him, that is his title,

Gen 2 talks about the details of the trees and about the garden and the tree of life, the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the river that split into 4---all the things not in the day by day description of what happened each day. The fact that there was no rain, but a mist, It is the same account with details, that is all.

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Which version of the Bible are you using ?

The KJV use the sentence -BEAST OF THE EARTH- for the animals created on the 6th day
Genesis 1:25 KJV
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

While that the animals who were created in the Garden of Eden are called BEAST OF THE FIELD in Genesis 2.
Genesis 2:19 KJV
19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

mmksparbud said:

The fact that there was no rain, but a mist, It is the same account with details, that is all.

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The mention of the mist from the ground prove nothing because we know that it have not rained on the EARTH until Noah's flood.

mmksparbud said:

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:7
and Yhwh the Elohiym molded the human of powder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a living being
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/translation2.html

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Pardon me, but Genesis 2:7 is from the beginning of the Creation; "when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens." Genesis 2:4. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1.

Riberra said:

Which version of the Bible are you using ?

The KJV use the sentence -BEAST OF THE EARTH- for the animals created on the 6th day
Genesis 1:25 KJV
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

While that the animals who were created in the Garden of Eden are called BEAST OF THE FIELD in Genesis 2.
Genesis 2:19 KJV
19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

The mention of the mist from the ground prove nothing because we know that it have not rained on the EARTH until Noah's flood.

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Mechanical translation--word for word transliteration from the original Hebrew.
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/translation2.html
And we know it had not rained because Gen 2 says so.
FIELD: An open land area free of trees and buildings. A level plot of ground. [Strong's #: 7704]
LAND: The solid part of the earth's surface. The whole of the earth or a region.Strong's #: 772, 776, 778]

Genesis 1:24
and Elohiym said, the land will bring out living beings to her kind, beasts and treaders and living ones of the land to her kind, and he existed so,
Genesis 1:25
and Elohiym made living ones of the land to her kind and the beast to her kind and all of the treaders of the ground to his kind, and Elohiym saw that it was functional,



Genesis 2:19

and Yhwh the Elohiym molded from the ground all the living ones of the field, and all the flyers of the skies

Riberra said:

While that the animals who were created in the Garden of Eden are called BEAST OF THE FIELD in Genesis 2.
Genesis 2:19 KJV

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Technically----field is land free of trees, however, according to you, that means that the animals created in Gen 2 (beasts of the field) were created for the garden of Eden ---but the Garden of Eden contained Trees. It is contradictory.

Kenneth Redden said:

Pardon me, but Genesis 2:7 is from the beginning of the Creation; "when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens." Genesis 2:4

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Not sure what you're trying to say---
We do have to understand that the original Hebrew did not contain verses and chapters, with virtually no punctuation---it is one long scroll, a narrative--there is no Gen 1 and 2 in the original--it all flowed in one narrative.

Gen 1:31 to Gen 2:4 would read like this:

and Elohiym saw all which he made and look it is very functional and evening existed and morning existed a sixth day the skies and the land and all of their armies were finished and Elohiym finished in the seventh day his business which he did and he ceased in the seventh day from all his business which he did and Elohiym respected the seventh day and he set him apart given that in him he ceased from all of his business which Elohiym fattened to make these are the birthings of the skies and the land in their being fattened in the day Yhwh the Elohiym made land and skies

What we call the start of Gen 2 is a summation of what has been and then the rest goes into more detail, without mention of any days or what was created on which day.

mmksparbud said:

Mechanical translation--word for word transliteration from the original Hebrew.
http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/translation2.html

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That mechanical transliteration provide horrible results.
Here and example from your post 924
Genesis 1:28 [mechanical translation]
and Elohiym respected them , and Elohiym said to them, reproduce and increase and fill the land and subdue her, and rule in the fish of the sea and in the flyers of the skies, and in all the living ones treading upon the land,


Genesis 1:28 KJV
8 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Do you believe that the sentence [And God RESPECTED them] mean the same thing that [and God BLESSED them]...

I am sure that the word -blessed- in Hebrew is different that the word -respected-.

Use the Strong concordance and you will see the real Hebrew word for -Blessed- does not mean -Respected- .

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H1288&t=KJV

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H1288&t=KJV
בָּרַךְ
Transliteration:
barak
Pronunciation
bä·rak'

to bless, kneel

The KJV translates Strongs H1288 in the following manner: bless (302x), salute (5x), curse (4x), blaspheme (2x), blessing (2x), praised (2x), kneel down (2x), congratulate (1x), kneel (1x), make to kneel (1x), miscellaneous (8x).

Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

to bless, kneel

(Qal)

to kneel

to bless

(Niphal) to be blessed, bless oneself

(Piel) to bless

(Pual) to be blessed, be adored

(Hiphil) to cause to kneel

(Hithpael) to bless oneself

(TWOT) to praise, salute, curse

pinkmatter said:

Is Genesis all figurative language?

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Pretty much, yes.

The language of Genesis is not literal (or the only danger from snakes would be that they bruise our heels). It is figurative displaying God's role as the creator of all and mankinds relationship within such. The same is true of the ark story - it is figurative, displaying the nature of salvation not a literal wooden boat with 2-by-2 animals parading in.

Demanding that people take literally that which is figurative puts a stumbling block before them.

Genesis 2:3
and Elohiym respected the seventh day and he set him apart given that in him he ceased from all of his business which Elohiym fattened to make,

The Hebrew word is:וַיְבָרֶךְ barak
wai'va'rekh
and~he~will~much~KNEEL (Verb)KNEEL (Verb):

To bend the knee, to kneel in homage or to kneel down to get a drink water; Respect (when written in the piel [intensive] form). [Strong's #: 1288, 1289
KNEEL (V)


The following is an excerpt from the book The Living Words.

Most Hebrew roots consist of three letters and can be written as a noun or a verb, but both are related in meaning. A good example is the root ברך which can be used as a noun, ברך berek [H:1290], meaning "knee" or as a verb, ברך barak [H:1288], meaning "to kneel." Both the noun and verb form can be seen in the following passage.

...and kneeled (barak) down upon his knees (berek) before all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands toward heaven 2 Chronicles 6:13 (KJV)

Additional nouns are developed out of the root by adding specific letters to the root, the most common being the addition of the letter ה to the end of the root, such as in the word ברכה berakah [H:1293]. This word is a gift or present and is related to the root through the idea of bending down to the knee and presenting a gift to another. Each verb also has the ability to slightly change in meaning by changing the "form" of the verb. The "piel" form of the verb ברך barak [H:1288] literally means "to bend the knee to present a gift." These definitions are the original concrete meanings of these words, but you will recognize them more easily by the abstract words the translators usually use to translate them.

And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one blessing (berakah), my father? bless (barak) me, even me also... Genesis 27:38 (KJV)

A more literal translation of this verse would read as;

And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one gift (berakah), my father? Kneel down and present me a gift (barak), even me also...

While I prefer to use the concrete definitions of Hebrew words, I am not implying the Ancient Hebrews were void of any abstract thought. On the contrary, the Hebrew language is filled with abstract thought, but the difference between Hebrew and Greek abstracts is Hebrew abstracts are related to something concrete while Greek abstracts are not.

A "blessing" from Greek thought is a pure abstract with no foundation in the concrete, but from a Hebraic perspective a "blessing" is any action or object that is presented out of respect to another.

Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing (berakah), that there shall not be room enough to receive it. Malachi 3:10 (KJV)



The following is an excerpt from the book Ancient Hebrew Dictionary.

The Hebrew verb barak means to kneel as seen in Genesis 24:11. However, when written in the piel form it means to show respect (usually translated as bless) as seen in Genesis 12:2. A related Hebrew word is berakhah meaning a gift or present. From this we can see the concrete meaning behind the piel form of the verb barak. It is to bring a gift to another while kneeling out of respect. The extended meaning of this word is to do or give something of value to another. Elohiym "respects" us by providing for our needs and we in turn "respect" Elohiym by giving him of ourselves as his servants.

mmksparbud said:

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:7

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Notice that Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) "formed" Adam of the dust of the ground, like a Potter molds the clay. Jesus then breathes life into Adam for in Him was life:

Jhn 1:4 In Him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Notice that this event took place BEFORE the plants herbs and rain of the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12 and Gen 2:4-7

Lord God/Jesus always makes temporary creations while God the Trinity always makes ETERNAL creations.

and Yhwh the Elohiym molded the human of powder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a living being

Scripturally:

Adam was "formed" from the ground on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants herbs and trees . Gen 2:4-7

Eve was "made" from Adam's rib on the 6th Day AFTER the animals were made from the ground. Gen 2:22

BOTH Adam and Eve were "created" by God the Trinity AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2

Gen 5:1 ¶ This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God (Elohim-Trinity) created man, (Heb-Adam) in the likeness of God (Jesus-Col:1:15) made He him; Gen 5:2 Male and female created he THEM; and blessed THEM, and called THEIR name Adam, (Heb-mankind) in the day when they were created.

Jesus made Adam and gave him life on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4-7
Jesus made Eve on the 6th Day from Adam's rib. Gen 2:22

God the Trinity "created" both Adam and Eve in Christ Spiritually, Eternally, AFTER Cain killed Abel. Amen?

Riberra said:

Genesis 2 tell us that ADAM was formed after the 7 Th Day of rest and placed in the Garden of Eden....thus AFTER the humans [MANKIND] who were created by God in Day 6 after the ANIMAL KIND Genesis 1:24-26,31

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The above does NOT agree with the Scripture you listed. I will add my view in brackets.

Genesis 2
2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, (Heb-brought to perfection) and ALL the host of them.

The above is future since it tells us of a future 7th Day AFTER God has brought His perfect 3rd Heaven to perfection AND filled it with ALL of it's host. We live today at Gen 1:27 since God is STILL "creating" it's host, Spiritually in Christ. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy. The host will NOT be complete until the last sinner to be saved, is saved.

*** 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested (Ceased) on the seventh day from ALL His work which He had made.

Is God the Holy Spirit STILL working today, on the present 6th Day, the Day of Salvation? Of -course He is and so is the Father and the Son. Without the agreement of the Trinity, nothing can be "created". Gen 1:26

*** 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from ALL His work which God created and made.

IF God had rested (ceased) from ALL of His work in the beginning, No one could be saved. God will NOT rest until His creation of the perfect Heaven is brought to perfection at the end of the present 6th Day/Age. Amen?

mmksparbud said:

Gen 2 is not in chronological order as Gen 1---Gen 2 does not give any days. They are the same creation.

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Genesis chapter One is the entire History of the creation including events which are future to our time. Gen 1:28-31 is prophecy of future events.

The FIRST three verses of Genesis chapter Two tell of a future time which has NO ending, the 7th Day.

At Gen 2:4, we are taken BACK to the outline of Genesis one to the 3rd Day. All of the rest of the Bible refers BACK to one of the 7 Days/Ages of Creation shown in the FIRST 34 verses of Genesis.

God told us our complete HISTORY before He created it. It's proof of God. Amen?

mmksparbud said:

Adam and Eve were created on day 6---period. Wholly and completely. God doesn't do things half way. Cain and Ab el were not born until after the fall. You keep insisting on 2 separate creations--God made one earth, one heavens, one Adam and one Eve. He does not do replicas. Gen 1 and Gen 2 are the same creation week, Gen 2 just fill in details not in Gen 1---you refuse to believe that--that's ok. Doesn't change the facts any.

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God created [bara] the human soul in his image in Genesis 1:27.

In his image? God never changes. Our bodies will change. The soul remains constant. God is invisible. The soul is invisible. "In His image."

In Genesis 1:27? God created [bara] out from nothing. In Genesis 2? God did not create [bara] out from nothing. Instead, this time he molded and formed [jatsar] out from what had been created out from nothing, as found in Genesis 1.

The Lord molded and formed [jatsar] a lifeless body that was to be inhabited by the soul he had previously created out from nothing.

There are not two creations. But, two phases to the creation. One was creating the life. The second was providing the provisions for that life to be manifested physically and expressed in the material created world.

mmksparbud said:

Genesis 2:3
and Elohiym respected the seventh day and he set him apart given that in him he ceased from all of his business which Elohiym fattened to make,

The Hebrew word is:וַיְבָרֶךְ barak
wai'va'rekh
and~he~will~much~KNEEL (Verb)KNEEL (Verb):

To bend the knee, to kneel in homage or to kneel down to get a drink water; Respect (when written in the piel [intensive] form). [Strong's #: 1288, 1289
KNEEL (V)http://www.mechanical-translation.org/mt/dictionary_k.html#416

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Lets concentrate our efforts on Genesis1 verses 1 and 2 for starter

E.W. Bullinger's Companion Bible Notes

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/bul/genesis-1.html


Genesis1 verses 1 and 2
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth BECAME without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Verse 1

"THE WORLD THAT THEN WAS" (2 Peter 3:5, 2 Peter 3:6). See Structure shown in Genesis Book comments. Creation in eternity past, to which all Fossils and "Remains" belong.

God. Hebrew. Elohim, plural. First occurrence connects it with creation, and denotes, by usage, the Creator in relation to His creatures. See App-4. The Hebrew accent Athnach places the emphasis, and gives pause, on "God" as being Himself the great worker, separating the Worker from His work.

created (singular) Occurs 6 times in this Introduction. Other acts 46 times. See App-5. Perfection implied. Deuteronomy 32:4. 2 Samuel 22:31. Job 38:7. Psalm 111; Psalms 147:3-5. Proverbs 3:19. Ecclesiastes 3:11-14. [Even the Greek Cosmos = ornament. Exodus 33:4-6. Isaiah 49:18. Jeremiah 4:30. Ezekiel 7:20. 1 Peter 3:3.]

the heaven and the earth. With Hebrew Particle "eth before each, emphasizing the article "the", and thus distinguishing both from Genesis 2:1. "Heavens" in Hebrew, always in plural. See note on Deuteronomy 4:26.
Verse 2

And. Note the Figure of speech Polysyndeton (App-6), by which, in the 34 verses of this Introduction, each one of 102 separate acts are emphasized; and the important word "God" in Genesis 1:1 is carried like a lamp through the whole of this Introduction (Genesis 1:1, Genesis 2:3).

the earth. Figure of speech Anadiplosis. See App-6.

was = became. See Genesis 2:7; Genesis 4:3; Genesis 9:15; Genesis 19:26. Exodus 32:1. Deuteronomy 27:9. 2 Samuel 7:24, &c. Also rendered came to pass Genesis 4:14; Genesis 22:1; Genesis 23:1; Genesis 27:1. Joshua 4:1; Joshua 5:1. 1 Kings 13:32. Isaiah 14:24, &c. Also rendered be (in the sense of become) Genesis 1:3, &c, and where the verb "to be" is not in italic type. Hence, Exodus 3:1, kept = became keeper, quit = become men, &c. See App-7.

without form = waste. Hebrew. tohu va bohu. Figure of speech Paronomasia. App-6. Not created tohu (Isaiah 45:18), but became tohu (Genesis 1:2. 2 Peter 3:5, 2 Peter 3:6). " An enemy hath done this" (Matthew 13:25, Matthew 13:28, Matthew 13:39. Compare 1 Corinthians 14:33.) See App-8.

was. This is in italic type, because no verb "to be" in Hebrew. (App-7). In like manner man became a ruin (Genesis 3; Psalms 14:1-3; Psalms 51:5; Psalms 53:1-3. Ecclesiastes 7:20. Romans 7:18).

face. Figure of speech Pleonasm. App-6.

the Spirit of God moved (see App-9) = The beginning of "the heavens and earth which are now" (2 Peter 3:7). It is even so in the New Creation. The Spirit moves (John 3:3-8. Romans 8:5, Romans 8:9, Romans 8:14. Galatians 1:4, Galatians 1:29. 2 Corinthians 5:17, 2 Corinthians 5:18).

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Aman777 said:

Notice that Lord God (YHWH/Jesus) "formed" Adam of the dust of the ground, like a Potter molds the clay. Jesus then breathes life into Adam for in Him was life:

Jhn 1:4 In Him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Notice that this event took place BEFORE the plants herbs and rain of the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12 and Gen 2:4-7

Lord God/Jesus always makes temporary creations while God the Trinity always makes ETERNAL creations.

and Yhwh the Elohiym molded the human of powder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a living being

Scripturally:

Adam was "formed" from the ground on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants herbs and trees . Gen 2:4-7

Eve was "made" from Adam's rib on the 6th Day AFTER the animals were made from the ground. Gen 2:22

BOTH Adam and Eve were "created" by God the Trinity AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2

Gen 5:1 ¶ This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God (Elohim-Trinity) created man, (Heb-Adam) in the likeness of God (Jesus-Col:1:15) made He him; Gen 5:2 Male and female created he THEM; and blessed THEM, and called THEIR name Adam, (Heb-mankind) in the day when they were created.

Jesus made Adam and gave him life on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4-7
Jesus made Eve on the 6th Day from Adam's rib. Gen 2:22

God the Trinity "created" both Adam and Eve in Christ Spiritually, Eternally, AFTER Cain killed Abel. Amen?

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Not one thing you say makes any sense whatsoever and none is scriptural.

and Yhwh the Elohiym molded the human of powder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a living being

God created Adam and Eve on day 6. There was no other creation. Gen 2 is the same story with added details, It is a way of writing that is done in other parts of the Torah if you read all of Genesis and Exodus and all the rest. There are several instances when they go back and talk about what happened in the past with added details.

Adam was one man--one creation, not 2 creations. God ceased creating on day 6 after He created Adam. That is why He then blessed the 7th day because He had ceased creating.
Rom_5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom_5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
God made Adam and Eve on day 6--He made them fully "functional"--nothing missing. He ceased creating because there was nothing left to do. what He does is perfect. No one needs to add to or subtract from what He does--including His word. He gave every living thing the ability to reproduce, thus continuing life. He maintains, He rules.
It's a free country, so far, and you are free to believe whatever you want----including you're own made up versions of what the bible says.

mmksparbud said:

Gen 2 is not in chronological order as Gen 1---Gen 2 does not give any days. They are the same creation.

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I believe:
The doublet beginning Genesis 2:4 continues from the beginning, with the second day in Genesis 6:1. The third day begins with “green herb” in Genesis 9:3 and the fourth day with the “sixth seal,” in Revelation 6:12. The fifth day is in Revelation 20:1-6 with the sixth day beginning Revelation 20:7.
The logical format of the KJV Bible is clear. From Genesis 1:1 to the book of Psalms is, “from the beginning,” which includes the everlasting and first day. The book of Psalms is for the second day. From the book of Proverbs to the end of the Old Testament is from the third day.

Kenneth Redden said:

I believe:
The doublet beginning Genesis 2:4 continues with the second day in Genesis 6:1. And the third day in Genesis 9:3, with “green herb.” The fourth day begins in Revelation 6:12 with the “sixth seal” and fifth day in Revelation 20:1-6 with the sixth day in Revelation 20:7.
The logical format of the KJV Bible is clear. From Genesis 1:1 to the book of Psalms is, “from the beginning,” which includes the everlasting and first day. The book of Psalms is for the second day. From the books of Proverbs to the end of the Old Testament is from the third day.

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Thank you for you input-----you clarity is clear as mud to me.

The key to understanding Genesis 1 and 2 is to be found in the Hebrew text,

What did God rest from in Genesis 2:3?


'Bara' when it was used in relation to God creating, meant to create something out from nothing. Out from nothing God created the heavens and earth. Out from nothing God created male and female souls.

In Genesis 2? We find God no longer using 'bara!' He rested. There was no more creating out from nothing. And, there was no more 'asah.' Meaning to make/design.' ... Planning on how what was to be created 'bara.'

Instead? In Genesis 2? We now see the Lord alone (no longer the Trinity together) molding and forming [jatsar] from the elements of the soil (which had been already created/bara) a lifeless body. One that needed life breathed into it.

It says that God rested from [bara and asah] - designing and creating out from nothing. Did that mean God took a vacation? No... For, He continued on with the next phase for what he had already created in Genesis 1, but was no longer creating out from nothing [bara]. God rested from creating out from nothing!

Why some wish to remain stubborn and blind to this knowledge? Is something that they will regret deeply when they appear before the Lord! FOR THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE NOW! For, they know it now.

But... In the drive of the carnal believer's own sin nature's desires? They will spin and distort in hopes that no believer can ever become peaceful and rested, having resolve in the face of evil's confusing web. Instead, they crave to stir up dust. Driven in their flesh's lust for control. Its all around us. Every day.

mmksparbud said:

Not one thing you say makes any sense whatsoever and none is scriptural.

and Yhwh the Elohiym molded the human of powder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a living being

God created Adam and Eve on day 6. There was no other creation. Gen 2 is the same story with added details, It is a way of writing that is done in other parts of the Torah if you read all of Genesis and Exodus and all the rest. There are several instances when they go back and talk about what happened in the past with added details.

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Amen, God (Trinity) created both Adam and Eve on the present 6th Day. Gen 1:27

Adam was "formed" by Lord God/Jesus, of the dust on the 3rd Day before the plants herbs and rain. Gen 2:4-7

Adam was "created" by the Trinity Spiritually and Eternally on the present 6th Day which was AFTER Cain killed Abel. Adam and Eve were born again Spiritually in Gen 5:1-2 at the SAME time. Eve was not made from Adam's rib until the 6th Day. Gen 2:22

*** Adam was one man--one creation, not 2 creations. God ceased creating on day 6 after He created Adam. That is why He then blessed the 7th day because He had ceased creating.

The present 6th Day continues since God is STILL creating Adam (Heb-mankind) in His Image, which is in Christ Spiritually and Eternally. We live today at Gen 1:27 and we will NOT advance to the prophecy of Gen 1:28-31 until AFTER Jesus returns.

*** Rom_5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom_5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
God made Adam and Eve on day 6--He made them fully "functional"--nothing missing. He ceased creating because there was nothing left to do. what He does is perfect. No one needs to add to or subtract from what He does--including His word. He gave every living thing the ability to reproduce, thus continuing life. He maintains, He rules.
It's a free country, so far, and you are free to believe whatever you want----including you're own made up versions of what the bible says.

Your religious view does NOT agree with what we are told in the New Testament:

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

Jesus said, you MUST be born again spiritually in order to go to Heaven. I can hardly wait to speak to our first Human parents, for their creation in God's image is told in Gen 1:27 AND Gen 5:1-2. They lived for 930 years AFTER they were born again, on planet Earth and then went to be with Jesus. Gen 5:5 Amen?

To cease creating is to cease creating. The bible says God created Adam and Eve on day 6 and that is what He did and He then ceased creating. Period. You can believe the moon is made of green cheese if you want.
Spiritual matters are dealt with at a spiritual level and have nothing to do with the creation of the physical, and do not require separate "creations"-it is a matter of the mind and heart.

ADJECTIVE

1. of, relating to, or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things:
   "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare" ·
   nonmaterial · incorporeal · intangible · inner · mental ·
   psychological · transcendent · ethereal · otherworldly · mystic · mystical · metaphysical · extramundane
   antonyms: physical
   • (of a person) not concerned with material values or pursuits.
2. of or relating to religion or religious belief:
   "the tribe's spiritual leader"
   synonyms: religious · sacred · divine · holy · nonsecular · church ·
   ecclesiastical · faith-based · devotional
   antonyms: secular