Oddly enough, that has been the historic Baptist position. From their alliance with Jefferson to fight New England Federalist to Baptist Klan members fighting Catholicism, most Baptists, until recently, have been for separation.
And how do you separate church and state? If you get your political ideology from Karl Marx, that is OK but if you get it from the Sermon on the Mount that is not?
Who is advocating the "Christian law or Christian rule in America" you speak of?
No one I know.
There was a movement at the time of the founding and until the end of the 19th century to spell out in the constitution that America is a Christian country. Didn't happen then and there is no drive for it to occur now. It's a straw man. One the People for the American way use to solicit funds and Democrats use to scare uninformed voters.
Btw...there was also a drive at the end of the 19th century to pass a constitutional amendment for a separation of church and state. "Ethical" societies and "progressives" pushed that idea, They failed of course (which makes you wonder about them as they now insist the phrase is a basic principle of American government. If so, why did "progressives" try to put it in the constitution over 100 years after the constitution was ratified?)
Oddly enough, that has been the historic Baptist position. From their alliance with Jefferson to fight New England Federalist to Baptist Klan members fighting Catholicism, most Baptists, until recently, have been for separation.
The Baptist view of church/state separation has nothing to do with anti-Catholicism. The Baptists who were around at the founding of our country were a minority, and as a minority, they understood better than anyone else the dangers of what happens when the majority is allowed to speak for everyone. Thus, the Baptists advocated separation of church and state, which gave everyone equal footing.
And how do you separate church and state?
By not having the government endorse one religion or a set of reliigous beliefs over others - a principle our founders believed in enough to put it in the Constitution.
If you get your political ideology from Karl Marx, that is OK
I'm getting tired of your labeling of everything as "Marxism" and "Communism". Every time you do it, I'm convinced you don't really know what you're talking about, so you throw in a "Marxism" straw-man to make yourself sound knowledgable.
if you get it from the Sermon on the Mount that is not?
The biggest misconception of all is the belief that separation of church and state means separation of personal faith.
Who is advocating the "Christian law or Christian rule in America" you speak of?
No one I know.
Who are you talking about, because there is a long list of fundamentalists I know that are constantly whining about church/state issues and how much better it would be if this nation "returned to Godly principles". Pat Robertson acts as though he'd prefer a Christian theocracy where belief in God is required than a democracy where religion is left to the individual conscience. None of the fundamentalists know what they're talking about.
There was a movement at the time of the founding and until the end of the 19th century to spell out in the constitution that America is a Christian country. Didn't happen then and there is no drive for it to occur now. It's a straw man. One the People for the American way use to solicit funds and Democrats use to scare uninformed voters.
How many times have we heard endless proclamations of our country as a "Christian nation" and how much better it would be if Christian principles were used in government? You may call that "Christians being involved in goverment", but I call it trying to remake America into a theocracy.
(which makes you wonder about them as they now insist the phrase is a basic principle of American government. If so, why did "progressives" try to put it in the constitution over 100 years after the constitution was ratified?)
I wasn't aware that there ever was an amendment for church/state separation, but it's unnecessary. The separation of church and state is as much a basic principle of our government as free speech. Without freedom of religion through church/state separation you would not have the United States of America.
Ringo
