6,000 Years?

[Apple Sky]

Why would the trees be cut down ?

I don't know you tell me.

Petrified Tree at the Yellowstone National Park​

 

[Apple Sky]

Now just making up your own false fairy tales ??

Here we go again.

 

[David Lamb]

Even if God made Adam as a fully grown man as you believe, that doesn't mean therefore God made trees with annual rings already in them, plus all the other manipulations that would have to occur.

And it's not scriptural.

What is scriptural is that when God created trees, they were sufficiently mature to be bearing fruit/seed:

“Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb [that] yields seed, [and] the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth"; and it was so.” (Ge 1:11 NKJV)

Whether those first created trees had growth rings, we are not told.

 

[Job 33:6]

I don't know you tell me.

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Petrified Tree at the Yellowstone National Park​

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Those are erosion surfaces. We know this because they run parallel to bedding plains of depositional layers.

 

[Apple Sky]

Those are erosion surfaces. We know this because they run parallel to bedding plains of depositional layers.

Look like trees to me.

 

[Job 33:6]

What is scriptural is that when God created trees, they were sufficiently mature to be bearing fruit/seed:

“Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb [that] yields seed, [and] the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth"; and it was so.” (Ge 1:11 NKJV)

Whether those first created trees had growth rings, we are not told.

"Let the earth bring forth" does not mean that they were instantaneously mature in a seed bearing state. Only that the earth brought them forth.

In fact, the Hebrew term there for "bring forth" or dasha, is also the same word used for "sprout" or to "put forth green shoots" elsewhere in the Bible.

Genesis 1:11 NASB1995
[11] Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them”; and it was so.

Joel 2:22 LEB
[22] Do not fear, wild animals of the field, because the pastures of the desert have put forth new green shoots, because the tree has produced its fruit, the fig tree and the vine have yielded their produce.

Joel 2:22 NIV
[22] Do not be afraid, you wild animals, for the pastures in the wilderness are becoming green. The trees are bearing their fruit; the fig tree and the vine yield their riches.

Genesis 1:11 ESV
[11] And God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth.” And it was so.

If the earth is sprouting vegetation, then you can just observe that these trees aren't fully mature when introduced. Sprouting is something a plant does when it comes out of the earth.

And in Joe's 2:22 the wilderness or the desert sprouts or brings forth green shoots or turns green etc. but in Joel we also understand that it's not describing fully mature trees appearing out of nothing.

 

[Job 33:6]

Look like trees to me.

I never said that it wasn't a tree. Would you like to frame your response in a question (assuming that you don't understand what I said).

 

[Apple Sky]

I never said that it wasn't a tree. Would you like to frame your response in a question (assuming that you don't understand what I said).

Yes, I don't understand what you were implying.

 

[Job 33:6]

Yes, I don't understand what you were implying.

I'm saying that the flat surface overtop of the tree stump depicted, is not a result of being "chopped down", rather it's a result of erosion. And we know this because these flat surfaces run parallel to bedding planes of sedimentary layers surrounding the tree.

Let me know if that helps clarify.

 

[Apple Sky]

I'm saying that the flat surface overtop of the tree stump depicted, is not a result of being "chopped down", rather it's a result of erosion. And we know this because these flat surfaces run parallel to bedding planes of sedimentary layers surrounding the tree.

Let me know if that helps clarify.

 

[Frank Robert]

What artifacts?

Did you read my post, if not here is what I wrote:

"artifacts used to date sites like Göbekli Tepe include chipped stone tools, grinding stones, and animal bones. This can be done using radiocarbon dating, potassium-argon dating, tephrochronology, or magnetostratigraphy."​

We need to critically examine them.

Do you think that archaeologists are not able to examine artifacts carefully? If you do please provide sources.

BTW you still have not provided a source regarding your previous claims putting them where they belong.

 

[River Jordan]

I reckon that most of the trees were cut down before the deluge & have since become petrified.

petrified trees - Google Search

Thanks for sharing.

 

[River Jordan]

What is scriptural is that when God created trees, they were sufficiently mature to be bearing fruit/seed:

“Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb [that] yields seed, [and] the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth"; and it was so.” (Ge 1:11 NKJV)

Whether those first created trees had growth rings, we are not told.

I don't see that as describing the state of the trees. It reads to me more like a description of the types of trees that the earth brought forth.

 

[Platte]

Even if God made Adam as a fully grown man as you believe, that doesn't mean therefore God made trees with annual rings already in them, plus all the other manipulations that would have to occur.

And it's not scriptural.

How else could you have a 50 foot tree? It would have to have all the normal appearance of age...leaves would be on it - the age would appear both externally and internally - just as if you drew me a picture of a tall tree - you'd hit every detail of what a 50 foot tree would look like. (both interally and externally). I don't know of any other way. Adam would have fingernails and other features of what a 20 year old man would have (I'm making an assumption of his age). That's the way I see it.

 

[Platte]

Did you read my post, if not here is what I wrote:

"artifacts used to date sites like Göbekli Tepe include chipped stone tools, grinding stones, and animal bones. This can be done using radiocarbon dating, potassium-argon dating, tephrochronology, or magnetostratigraphy."​

Do you think that archaeologists are not able to examine artifacts carefully? If you do please provide sources.

BTW you still have not provided a source regarding your previous claims putting them where they belong.
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Let review one of those chipped stone tools together - I'm not just gonna take what some archaeologists says...I want to see the data.

Did you read my post, if not here is what I wrote:

"artifacts used to date sites like Göbekli Tepe include chipped stone tools, grinding stones, and animal bones. This can be done using radiocarbon dating, potassium-argon dating, tephrochronology, or magnetostratigraphy."​

Do you think that archaeologists are not able to examine artifacts carefully? If you do please provide sources.

BTW you still have not provided a source regarding your previous claims putting them where they belong.
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Lets look at one of those chipped stone tools together and see who they extracted an age from it. I"m not going to take their word for it - I want to see what they and how they based it.

 

[River Jordan]

How else could you have a 50 foot tree?

What tree are you talking about?

 

[Platte]

What tree are you talking about?

The trees God created in Genesis 1:11-12. God created the Earth with trees and vegetation. Animals had to eat.

 

[River Jordan]

The trees God created in Genesis 1:11-12. God created the Earth with trees and vegetation. Animals had to eat.

There's nothing about any 50 foot tree in there.

 

[Platte]

There's nothing about any 50 foot tree in there.

You're right could have been 75 or 100 ft - I was just using 50 ft since that is basically the average height of a tree as a hypothetical - same way I was using Adam being 20 years old.

 

[River Jordan]

You're right could have been 75 or 100 ft - I was just using 50 ft since that is basically the average height of a tree as a hypothetical - same way I was using Adam being 20 years old.

But there's nothing in there about the earth bringing forth trees with annual rings already in them.