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So would you be causing pain and suffering, then, by your logic, by not believingin early church history, and the bible, and God? Ideas fight in the idea arena. Darwin's ideas took time to be accepted, no wars needed. Freedom is all about ideas.
Hey dad, you wouldn't happen to be a pastor of a church anywhere in CA would you? I would attend your church just for the sheer entertainment value of our sermons.Mao, marx, lenin, Stalin, yes. Believers, not. How many did the deciples kill? None. That's right. yet their ideas slew the Roman empire and impacted man ever since, and always will.
Hey dad, you wouldn't happen to be a pastor of a church anywhere in CA would you? I would attend your church just for the sheer entertainment value of our sermons.
Maybe you could start a youtube channel and put a few of your rants there?
Please consider.
Multitudes were healed, and helped, zero killed by them. Not my idea of pain. I suppose the demomns that though Jesus tormented them might agree with you, though.One need only look at how much pain, suffering, and death was caused by the early Church.
Multitudes were healed, and helped, zero killed by them. Not my idea of pain. I suppose the demomns that though Jesus tormented them might agree with you, though.
Maybe after I get 30 or 40 speaking invitations, at maybe 3 grand a pop. Until then, which I suspect is never, guess you will have to be amused another way.Hey dad, you wouldn't happen to be a pastor of a church anywhere in CA would you? I would attend your church just for the sheer entertainment value of our sermons.
Maybe you could start a youtube channel and put a few of your rants there?
Please consider.
Yes religious devils always were a problem for believers, and others! But they pretended at least to honor God, and the apostles and holy men of God of the past.How about these demons?
Yes religious devils always were a problem for believers, and others! But they pretended at least to honor God, and the apostles and holy men of God of the past.
If you mean the Inquisitors, yes. I clue in right away, when someone claims to be religious, and wants to imprison, shoot, bomb, or burn people. A dead give away.And were far more convincing than you were.
The early chuch was a bunch of miscreants and misfits, who, after thirty years realized that Jesus wasn't coming back anytime soon. So they had to rush and codify Jesus' teachings before they forgot them.If you mean the Inquisitors, yes. I clue in right away, when someone claims to be religious, and wants to imprison, shoot, bomb, or burn people. A dead give away.
I also clue in when someone tries to accuse the One that gave His life for all, and lived to heal, and serve and help, and raise from the dead, and save mankind. The early church preached the good news, and never killed anyone.
The early chuch was a bunch of miscreants and misfits, who, after thirty years realized that Jesus wasn't coming back anytime soon. So they had to rush and codify Jesus' teachings before they forgot them.
So who can remember what was said 30 years ago?
They did miracles, and spread the gospel, and impacted the planet big time. The sacred records needed to be kept, and not lost, so?The early chuch was a bunch of miscreants and misfits, who, after thirty years realized that Jesus wasn't coming back anytime soon. So they had to rush and codify Jesus' teachings before they forgot them.
Depends.
Are we talking about a one time incident, or something that's been repeated time & time again.
Sacred records? Really? Luke and Matthew copied heavily from Mark and Q, John was recorded seperately. Um, depends on your definition of sacred I guess.They did miracles, and spread the gospel, and impacted the planet big time. The sacred records needed to be kept, and not lost, so?
They did miracles, and spread the gospel, and impacted the planet big time.
The sacred records needed to be kept, and not lost, so?
That is easy. The merged state is simply where the spiritual is part of nature.
Our nature is now physical only. The spiritual still exists, separately. When God moves directly here, He uses the spiritual added to our physical.
Of course the gardemn was here...so? No idea what you are freaking out about now.
OK. Tell us about that in detail. Where is this constellation? What evidence is there of the dates on the document, or the eqinox? What proof is there that the eqinox was as claimed?
So we saw the far away stars that week. OK. So much for light speed we know being in effect at the time! The evidence mounts.
Not sure how you get that. If you look in the same chapter, God gives a 120 year time periiod till some big change. I think that was the split. That means that the ark only too 19 years or some such to build.
Where in the verse does it say that there were giants in the land after the 120 years, or after the flood? I don't see that at all.
He was the head astronomer in Australia. He studied many old records of where the solstice was, and etc, and realized that there was an axis change. He pinpinted the year it happened based on his 66 points of reference. Now, a few we might question, as to how accurate they are, but there are too many to ignore. They all led to one year. It was something like 2345 BC! Just the time of the split!!!!!!!!! He thought it was the flood that did it, of course. Interesting stuff.
Only in same state based dream years. No relation to actual time. I prefer reality, and knowledge.
Nope. That little commandment you just made up! It is not assumed at all any more by some.
It is irrelevent whether you assume a same state past, or a tooth fairy past, neither are proven! Neither are known. In fact your same stae hoax goes against history!
Creatures without bones? Wow, how stunning. Some got killed by the ash. So?? The 600,000 years you did not and cannot support. You just try to pass it off like a used car you are trying to get rid of.
If you want to claim that the glass does not used decay, and same state premises, go ahead. Try to make a case.
Finding stuff does not make it as old as you like. It just means stuff was found.
We can get some idea of age, but decay methods are useless when we get somewhere around 2000 BC, depending on the method.
If the scrolls are younger than that, it is not an issue. Science is OK, here in the present state. You just have never known when that started!
This guy is either a Poe or a loon. I don't really care which, I just steer clear.Do you all realize that you are debating someone who uses amateur-created geocities websites and crystalinks.com (a blatantly new age and pagan website, not to mention a conspiracy website) to back up his (supposedly) christian views?
I mean really, crystalinks? For a Christian? Really?
Do you realize that David (i.e. "dad") is the very same person who is BLAMING women for male homosexuality, simply because women don't spread their legs often enough from his pov? And that it is the woman's DUTY to "put out" as commanded (in his interpretation) by his personal god?
Seriously.....you guys are actually DEBATING this guy???
I won't give my opinion regarding his posting purposes or state of mind, but I agree-This guy is either a Poe or a loon. I don't really care which, I just steer clear.
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