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Well, after all, Buddhists are not Buddhas.Oddly, it is hard to find any Chinese who take that economic advice either.
Believe me if my bf gave away the rent money he would find it gave rise to anxiety or worse, when i found out.
Yes God will take over one day. If you don't believe in God why obsess so over it??
Right, that is what so called science does. By force of law. Mandatory worship.
Don't worry about it. What matters is what evidence is there for a same state past, that opposes the bible account, or a same state future? The answer is zero. Nada. None. You are not in a position to decide what is true. I think God is.
No. Maybe a few to get anyone to understand, and a few more to get them to care?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we interpret the Bible like you guys interpret It, we would be out looking for witches to burn, people to enslave, and genociding the rest?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we interpret the Bible like you guys interpret It, we would be out looking for witches to burn, people to enslave, and genociding the rest?
False! The application of the spiritual on the physical, or spiritual added, if you will is what went down. In fact, if the universe was different pre flood, with a spiritual added component, that changes all laws, forces, light, and etc.
The garden of Eden was not in this physical world. Not unless this universe was physical only back then!
Not all records are equal. But if the records are directly after the flood, or split, they would have significance. The one you speak of, is dated how??
Yes, Genesis does so! It states that the light was for signs for man. That means we had to see them!
That means creation week. There are also many other differences there that cannot be reconciled to this state. Spirits that come here now are visitors. They are not marrying gals here at the moment.
So, what? Tell us the details, HOW the so called slow changes were calculated, what the so called slow changes were etc!!! The position of the solstices!??? Show us! What is the data? You will find it is a lark, by the way. But feel free to put it on the table. I need a laugh.
Nope. I doubt it. I think the big change was right where the dodwell curve put it!
Paleeeese. How much of this happened since Jesus?? Precisely? Show us. Don't just rattle on as if it were true.
Same state theory suggests what it can, and is based on an unproven same state past. The suggestion is gibberish, and myth, unless backed by some fact.
Great. Show us one 200 million years old!
Tell us, now, how do you think you know that this ash is 600,000 years old!!!? Really. Let's see you go toe to toe with me here. I dare you.
And what is this evidence? What is the basis? Really.
Pay attention this time round. You could start to bore me. The spiritual. That is the difference.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we interpret the Bible like you guys interpret It, we would be out looking for witches to burn, people to enslave, and genociding the rest?
We don't need you guys to show us - (but thanks anyways).No, we are showing literalists how absurb it is to require the whole Bible be literal.
The Literal Method makes consideration for context.Psalm 91:4 said:He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
Oh, yes you would; if you lived back then.We think such actions are despicable and would never do such a thing.
You mean operating in the wrong place, don't you?Apparently you think it is ok for God to wipe out entire cities because they were living in the wrong place...
If I were in the armies He brought with Him, I would fight then. But, knowing the stinker that I am, I doubt He would pick me.You really just recycle old comments over and over, dont you?
Again David, it has nothing to do with the claim of your god taking over one day.
It has everything to do with your particular god returning fantasy in which millions are murdered, some by your own willing hand.
It is the appalling violence of your odd fantasy that is objectionable.
That is easy. The merged state is simply where the spiritual is part of nature. Our nature is now physical only. The spiritual still exists, separately. When God moves directly here, He uses the spiritual added to our physical. It is not our nature. What would be natural in the forever state, then, requires a miracle here.What about all of the spiritual events that happened after the flood? Elijah raising the bones, the parting of the Red Sea, Jesus turning water into wine, etc. Even the Bible says Satan and his followers were cast down from Heaven to Earth.
The "split" isn't even mentioned until after the fall of Babel. Most likely the "split" refers to the people moving into different areas after their language was confused.
He created the Garden on earth and he created the earth in this universe (according to the Bible). The Garden was in this physical world because it was planted between the Euphrates and the Tigris rivers! You are adding to the Bible, and last time I checked doing so is considered blasphemy.
OK. Tell us about that in detail. Where is this constellation? What evidence is there of the dates on the document, or the eqinox? What proof is there that the eqinox was as claimed?The Rigveda contain several statements of astronomical significance like the position of Sun in the Zodiac on the two equinoxes, vernal or spring equinox and autumn equinox. Indian Astronomy is based on sidereal Zodiac. The Zodiac is divided into 27 roughly equal segments, all are measuring 130 20' of arc. The seventh mandala of the Rigveda records the vernal equinox in Mrigashira Constellation pointing to a date around 4000 BCE. Again several Shulba Sūtrās declare that a pole star is visible. Since a visible pole star occurs only at certain epochs, such a citation gives a normal range of dates for that event. The astronomical dates put the dates before 4000BC.
So we saw the far away stars that week. OK. So much for light speed we know being in effect at the time! The evidence mounts.That "light" were the stars.
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Genesis 1:14
Not sure how you get that. If you look in the same chapter, God gives a 120 year time periiod till some big change. I think that was the split. That means that the ark only too 19 years or some such to build.Genesis 6 states that "4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." It seems that spirits married gals after the flood as well, since that is what the Bible says.
You best bet may be to look up an old thread here called George Dodwell finds God.I honestly cannot find much of anything about this "dodwell curve." Care to provide a link?
None. The last ice age ended around 18,000 years ago.
[/qiuoote] Only in same state based dream years. No relation to actual time. I prefer reality, and knowledge.
Until you can provide evidence for some mystical different state past, a same-state is assumed.
Nope. That little commandment you just made up! It is not assumed at all any more by some. It is irrelevent whether you assume a same state past, or a tooth fairy past, neither are proven! Neither are known. In fact your same stae hoax goes against history!
Creatures without bones? Wow, how stunning. Some got killed by the ash. So?? The 600,000 years you did not and cannot support. You just try to pass it off like a used car you are trying to get rid of.Showing you ash that is 600,000 years old is still plenty old enough than the 4004BC date of creation. They've recently found fossils of invertebrates in Silurian age volcanic ash.
The use of glass for dating volcanic ash by thermoluminescence
The Edge of Time: Dating Young Volcanic Ash Layers with the 40Ar-39Ar Laser Probe -- Chen et al. 274 (5290): 1176 -- Science
CiNii- ESR dating of volcanic ash
5th millennium BC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
4th millennium BC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (yeah, I know, wikipedia...)
If you want to claim that the glass does not used decay, and same state premises, go ahead. Try to make a case.
Finding stuff does not make it as old as you like. It just means stuff was found. We can get some idea of age, but decay methods are useless when we get somewhere around 2000 BC, depending on the method. If the scrolls are younger than that, it is not an issue. Science is OK, here in the present state. You just have never known when that started!We've found numerous artifacts, burial sites, tools, and various other items. Question, do you accept the age of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
If you say so...
I'm glad people's religions don't affect their public lives negatively.
I mean, seriously?
Just kill this thread; anything arguing against "Dad Theory" is simply doing science a discredit by even listening to this nonsense.
Then again, if everyone just ignored ignorance, then everyone would become ignorant....
hmm....
theres no solution.
"Dad theory" is funny though.
If more people thought like that, imagine how much more suffering pain and destruction there'd be in the world if there was no reason to believe anyting true bc theres the possibility that it might not true. Imagine how slow advances in medicine, technology and human services would become; imagine how much more death and sickness and war there'd be if people were fighting over such a cockamani obsession.
scary and potential threats to a free and civillized society.
their message of hate doesn't go far anyway.
So would you be causing pain and suffering, then, by your logic, by not believingin early church history, and the bible, and God? Ideas fight in the idea arena. Darwin's ideas took time to be accepted, no wars needed. Freedom is all about ideas."Dad theory" is funny though.
If more people thought like that, imagine how much more suffering pain and destruction there'd be in the world if there was no reason to believe anyting true bc theres the possibility that it might not true. Imagine how slow advances in medicine, technology and human services would become; imagine how much more death and sickness and war there'd be if people were fighting over such a cockamani obsession.
Mao, marx, lenin, Stalin, yes. Believers, not. How many did the deciples kill? None. That's right. yet their ideas slew the Roman empire and impacted man ever since, and always will.I hope not but ideologs killed close to a hundred million people in the 20th century and they didnt do it out of love for all their fellow humans.
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