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I got no warning of the site you keep mentioning. Funny that.
I saw an antichrist surge and unfairness, and took action. End of story.
Your obsessive compulsive fascination with God taking over, and ending the rule, and rules of man is noted.
Tough. Get over it.
Now, about the dating basis for the movie in the OP...any comment?
Sorry to interupt your stalking here, but time is a tickin.
We are not talking about the martyrs of the end period when the final evil king has his little day in the sun, becoming snipers, or military resistors here on earth. As you seem to realize, it is an invasion from space. A real invasion, on real flying horses, led by the King of all Kings. (ask Elvis who that is..he knew). That is simply something one either takes, or leaves.
I find it somewhat freakish, that aomeone would instead adopt the attitude 'Hey, you think you may be one of that invading space army of God. or might like to be, so you are a murderer, leave the bad guy terrorists trying to kill all life on earth alone..whah ha, boo hoo'
Ha, hilarious!!! Three spam posts in a row, rather than slowing down, like an honest debater, and speak about the details of what you already posted, even though called out, and asked to!!! No interest in the truth at all. Just in spamming your religious rot.
OK, what a senile waste of time. Lurkers take note. I stood ready to actually discuss what is known, and this mental and moral dwarf spams the night away!
You seem to assume that physical science covers spirits. That is spooky. How do you propose that the phsycal spot the spritual, precisely?? It would be easier for a blind man to spot a spotted owl.
Not I, but the records man actually has, rather than dreams up, based on pretending the present has to be the be all end all.
It is this. The proper unbiased interpretation of all evidence screams out ;different state past'!
The spirits among men in the past, the fast evolving, and plant growth rate, and different light, and life spans etc etc/
That is why looking at the millimeters a year crawl of the continents, and trying to use that as a measure of deep past rates, for example, is truly laughable.
I would say yes! But first one must take off the shackles and limitations of same state religious thinking.
Then, if we look at data, like Dodwell's curve, it makes perfect sense. Dodwell was an astronomer, for the lurkers, that mapped data points, that all led to the year 2345 or somewhere near there..as the start of a major cosmilogiacal change, and axis change of the earth. The data was from the shadows recorded by ancients, on solstice, and etc. It shows a different tilt at the time. And we can look at fossils, drift, distant stars, or anything else you dare dream of, and it is the same story.
So????! Point? Is there some ash somewhere you want to offer us as pre flood ash? Let's see it! What country? What layer? Etc. Get down, man.
Say what??? What ash, where? Let's see the specs. The microscopic details. Don't just blow smoke.
That seems off topic? This is about 4004 BC, and the sillly unsupported claim it was a day as usual, blah blah. No evidence for the dates was given, just a story rattled off.
The state of the past is another thread. But, rather than spend a lot of time, let me give you the low down on that. There is no proof of a sams state past. That kills your case dead.
False! The application of the spiritual on the physical, or spiritual added, if you will is what went down. In fact, if the universe was different pre flood, with a spiritual added component, that changes all laws, forces, light, and etc. The garden of Eden was not in this physical world. Not unless this universe was physical only back then!ICT Results - Helping the blind to see
I guess the physical could spot the spiritual the same way the people of the Bible did... with their senses. That is the basis of the scientific method, using your senses and reasoning to understand the world. All of the spirtual experiences of the Bible took place in the physical world. If it happens in the physical world it can be studied by "physical science".
Not all records are equal. But if the records are directly after the flood, or split, they would have significance. The one you speak of, is dated how??So I guess the Rig Veda has as much authority as the Bible? It is a record of man as well...
Also being the key word there. I also do not claim my views are science based. Learn the difference they do!You also have a biased interpretation based in your religious conviction. Bias is a part of science but scientists have to be intellectually honest. If a conclusion contradicts what you want you can't change the result.
Yes, Genesis does so! It states that the light was for signs for man. That means we had to see them! That means creation week. There are also many other differences there that cannot be reconciled to this state. Spirits that come here now are visitors. They are not marrying gals here at the moment.So are there not spirits among us now? Many people think the spiritual world is still here with us. What makes our state different from the past (you have yet to answer it by the way)? What different light is there? God created the Sun and stars in Genesis. It doesn't mention any "different state" light.
For what? It is not ehat you use, it is how you use it.Well perhaps you could provide an alternative hypothesis? We don't just look at current continental movement either. We also use fossils and other geologic phenomena to piece together the past shifting of our continents. Until you can name a better hypothesis that can explain all of the current data you're just blowing smoke.
What is The Milankovitch Theory?
So, what? Tell us the details, HOW the so called slow changes were calculated, what the so called slow changes were etc!!! The position of the solstices!??? Show us! What is the data? You will find it is a lark, by the way. But feel free to put it on the table. I need a laugh.The Milankovitch or astronomical theory of climate change is an explanation for changes in the seasons which result from changes in the earth's orbit around the sun. The theory is named for Serbian astronomer Milutin Milankovitch, who calculated the slow changes in the earth's orbit by careful measurements of the position of the stars, and through equations using the gravitational pull of other planets and stars. He determined that the earth "wobbles" in its orbit. The earth's "tilt" is what causes seasons, and changes in the tilt of the earth change the strength of the seasons. The seasons can also be accentuated or modified by the eccentricity (degree of roundness) of the orbital path around the sun, and the precession effect, the position of the solstices in the annual orbit.
Nope. I doubt it. I think the big change was right where the dodwell curve put it!Orbital changes occur over thousands of years,
Paleeeese. How much of this happened since Jesus?? Precisely? Show us. Don't just rattle on as if it were true.and the climate system may also take thousands of years to respond to orbital forcing.
The tooth fairy may also suggest that. So??? Same state theory suggests what it can, and is based on an unproven same state past. The suggestion is gibberish, and myth, unless backed by some fact.Theory suggests that the primary driver of ice ages is the total summer radiation received in northern latitude zones where major ice sheets have formed in the past, near 65 degrees north. Past ice ages correlate well to 65N summer insolation (Imbrie 1982). Astronomical calculations show that 65N summer insolation should increase gradually over the next 25,000 years, and that no 65N summer insolation declines sufficient to cause an ice age are expected in the next 50,000 - 100,000 years
NOAA Paleoclimatology Program - Orbital Variations and Milankovitch Theory
The point is that any volcanic ash we find on earth will have the same structure and composition. It doesn't matter if it is 3 hours old or 200 million years old, it will still be identifiable as volcanic ash.
And what is this evidence? What is the basis? Really.The evidence was in the archaeological research conducted over decades. The irony of the last sentence is overwhelming.
<staff edit> The spiritual. That is the difference.You have yet to explain how the past was different. There is no proof of a different state past. All the evidence can easily be explained using our "same state" science. Until you can provide evidence to the contrary, your case is deader.
So you keep claiming but you have also claimed that you have never been banned from any site. That is a lie. Again, accounts like Simple or your Arkathon derivative account.
So after calling people anti-Chirsts and telling them they were worthy of death, you just left quietly? Still doesnt jive with your documented actions to date.
And again, if that were true then why you did have to create another account for that very same site?
Your claims simply do not make sense in comparison to your action and track record.
And as you have been told before David, it is not compulsive to take a stand against a person such as you who claims and justifies the hopeful murder of millions.
This doesnt even begin to address your posted hope to take part in such mass murder.
Get over what? Your desire to harm others or your desire to murder non-Christians? Again David, nothing to get over.
I have plenty of comments David, but as usual you are incapable of addressing them and prefer to try to change the topic when you cannot reply rationally or with substance.
And gain David, my account predates yours on this forum. Your ever-present stalking claim is still just as amusing as when you stated I was stalking you in a thread of my own creation, but it doesnt change the fact that you are unable to address your own rather violent claims of what will happen to non-Christians at your hands.
And again David, you made your non-Christian snuff fantasy part of this topic thread by posting your magical and fantasy-filled split/merge rhetoric.
And as it has been posted here and on so many other forums, your claims require proof or your claims are simply hollow.
Be they the special magically murdering ones of the split/merge with a flying golden pyramid measuring 1500 miles tall and wide with, using your words, the space army crusaders riding flaming steeds and wielding flaming swords or not, you still need proof.
And as on so many other forums you still appears to be painfully lacking in any.
So where is your proof of your magical murder fantasy David?
I can cite your own posts David to back up what I have stated about your claims:
PhysForum Science, Physics and Technology Discussion Forums -> What To Teach In School About Creation?
When provided with a detailed reply regarding facts that illustrate just how laughable your magical murder fantasy is, this is the typical response you post in the face of facts you cannot rationally debate:
PhysForum Science, Physics and Technology Discussion Forums -> What To Teach In School About Creation?
More personal insults and yet another appeal to the lurkers.
There are so many examples of some of the same tactics you have resorted to here, but I dont think you have resorted to name calling, juvenile name alteration and the threats here that you have resorted to there.
But one thing that should comfort you I hope. Your split/merge document sill be available even after your website shuts down.
That does not include a far future or past, however, as all observations are in the here and now! Not unless you prove the state of the universe was or will be as you believe!I find it funny how everyone is trying to tell dad that he's wrong with his different state "theory".
Imho he's not really wrong, like I couldn't be proven wrong if I told you that all the universe together with everything in it was created by the allmighty FSM exactly 2.563 seconds ago.
I think the main point is that his "theory" is absolutely and completely irrelevant to actual science, because science is all about the observable facts and predictions based on these facts.
If the facts of the current state "predict" a same state past and future than it's simple the (scientific) thruth.
Say what? The current state have errors? No. It is what it is. The errors are in assuming it was and will be what it is. Try to get a handle on what is when.Other states are not falsifiable, because the current state is of course not presenting any facts or even hints to these, otherwise the current state would have errors.
You have a major problem you haven't realized yet, however that negates all in your post. That is that a same state past is not falsifiable either!So I would say, perhaps dad is right, but it's not relevant for any kind of real "at the moment actual state" science ...
Speaking as a "lurker" who has someone on ig, this particular dead horse doesnt need any more beating.
So now you label those that don't believe in a same state future you could never prove insane, and a danger to society. OK. I suppose if I had a nutball case I couldn't support I might call others names too. So called science, based on a dream state future and past is as nutball as anything could get. The zenith of idiocy.but whats the point of believing such an insane theory?
other than to get beter meds?
believing such things will only leading you to believe other insane things, thus, afer a while, if you believe enough false, insane things, then by clinical definition yes, you are insane, and thus, are a danger to society, yourself, and others, and should be treated as such.
Yes God will take over one day. If you don't believe in God why obsess so over it??Which dead horse do you mean? That Dad's theory is pseudoscience or that he has made some rather disturbing and violent threats against others?
Im sure everyone here who has read his posts and have debated Dad know the first, but I would be shocked to see that he posted his full split/merge snuff fantasy here.
If he has or has made other similar threats of killing non-Christians, then you are right, it is beating a dead horse.
If not, then at least you now know his full violent fantasy.
So now you label those that don't believe in a same state future you could never prove insane, and a danger to society. OK. I suppose if I had a nutball case I couldn't support I might call others names too. So called science, based on a dream state future and past is as nutball as anything could get. The zenith of idiocy.
Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at those living in houses built upon a rock. If there are any uncracked glass mirrors left in your house, next time you try to hit someone with the crazy stick, take a look in one.
Right, that is what so called science does. By force of law. Mandatory worship.I'm not trying to be mean, but what I say is true! If you teach people and spread ideas as truth which are not, then its bad for impressionable ears to take what is false and believe to be true.
Don't worry about it. What matters is what evidence is there for a same state past, that opposes the bible account, or a same state future? The answer is zero. Nada. None. You are not in a position to decide what is true. I think God is.Oh wait....it can be the other way around....if people hear such insane theories for so long, they begin to look the other direction toward knowledge, truth and enlightenment, sure and positive of what can be observed, and thus be true. So, no, perhaps what you do is a good thing for society.
No. Maybe a few to get anyone to understand, and a few more to get them to care?I don't need allegories to explain what I just explained.=)
Which dead horse do you mean? That Dad's theory is pseudoscience or that he has made some rather disturbing and violent threats against others?
Im sure everyone here who has read his posts and have debated Dad know the first, but I would be shocked to see that he posted his full split/merge snuff fantasy here.
If he has or has made other similar threats of killing non-Christians, then you are right, it is beating a dead horse.
If not, then at least you now know his full violent fantasy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we interpret the Bible like you guys interpret It, we would be out looking for witches to burn, people to enslave, and genociding the rest?I am aware that there are people who pray to god every day for a message that it is time to hunt down and kill people like me. They write books like The Turner Diaries. They post of the internet.
I dont think anyone here reading this thread believes his theories, or his denials of the things you brought up about his activities in other places.
Flogging his pseudoscience is i think, a bad idea to the extent that it gives an opportunity for him to post it again.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we interpret the Bible like you guys interpret It, we would be out looking for witches to burn, people to enslave, and genociding the rest?
Well, Gotama Buddha gave away kingdom and family.So I guess Id say that if you interpret the Bible the way I do, you wont be spending much time trying to act on what it says. Especially things like the economic advice that Jesus gave, I dont think much of anyone tries to stick to that.
Well, Gotama Buddha gave away kingdom and family.
Clinging to possessions gives rise to anxiety.
"Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?" --- KJV Matthew 6:25
That is a very Buddhist attitude.
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