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[Jimlarmore]

Jim this just shows where you loyalty is. Its with anything that is in connection with Adventism. Have you even been to save3abn.org? Because if you had, you would see that its more than gosip

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Yes, I visited this site today right after I learned of it. What I found was disturbing but not so much on the part of Danny Shelton and 3ABN. What I found was a lot of parsing information that was not documented or confirmed. IOW, a bunch of gossip. They did give an e-mail that Danny wrote in regards to all of this mess and because Danny said he would let ASI determine by investigation who was telling the truth they accused him of using ASI as a smoke screen for hiding the truth of massive scandals and wrong doing. The writer of this site clearly has an agenda against Danny Shelton , Tommy and 3abn. Whether any of it is true or not to me at this point is irrelevant to the ministry of 3abn.

I like to think of what Jesus told the mob who had brought the woman caught in adultery to Him. He told those standing there , he without sin cast the first stone. None of them cast any stones because He had just written most likely their sins in the dirt right in front of them to see.

It's the same here, none of us can point a finger at anyone about anything and be justified in doing so. God has worked mighty miracles at 3abn or it couldn't have done what it has or gotten to the place it has. Have you read the story on how this ministry all came about? Satan hates 3abn and we are helping his cause by spredding this diatribe on the internet. Let's not contribute to wrong doing by spredding it.

God Bless
Jim Larmore

 

[Sophia7]

I started a new thread in the main SDA forum so as not to contribute to debate here.

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

Adventist Today sent out a good article on the subject of the recent news at 3ABN. As I don't see it on their website I am posting the copy of the article posted on Atomorrow.com
http://www.atomorrow.com/discus/messages/1780/11277.html?1171324140#

It is the last post on that page.

 

[Sophia7]

Thanks, RC.

 

[DarylFawcett]

As the other 3ABN topic was closed in the main forum, I have created a new one there.

This is simply to provide the link to the new topic there:

http://www.christianforums.com/t4810888-examining-the-save-3abn-website.html

 

[DarylFawcett]

I also created this one as a continuation of the one that was closed in the main SDA forum:

http://www.christianforums.com/t4811533-3abn-continued.html

 

[ruready22]

I've not known an adventist pastor to marry someone who has divorced without Biblical grounds. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I just have not seen it myself. Knowing C.A. Murray and John Lomacang from watching them it would be hard to believe that they would do that. As for all this other stuff it's just plain old gossip and doing the work of satan in my opinion. 3ABN is doing the Lord's work and if satan can denigrate that work he'll do it thru us here who are gossiping. Sure , there are imperfect folks there, none of us is perfect yet. I just find it hard to believe that Danny didn't have Biblical grounds to divorce Linda.

Remember the Lord says we will be held accountable for every idle word that comes out of our mouths.


God Bless
Jim Larmore

It is sad, but there are pastors in the church who do perform marriages that are adulterous. And there are many more who allow divorces without disciplining the guilty.

 

[Cliff2]

It seems that too much now is being said for some of it not to be true.

 

[Galoldie]

Hi to All, It sounds to me like a few of you are judging,
I thought only GOD has a right to do that!
If you have ever been married,and lost your spouse,
you would realise how hard it is to live alone!
So far as Danny Shelton is concerned,you know that
"all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of GOD!"
He is undoubtably being used to spread the Gospel,
so our LORD can come back!! Your sister in CHRIST
Galoldie

 

[HeisNear]

I really, really like Shelly Quinn too. I read the book she co-authored with Danny Shelton "The Antichrist Agenda" and I was just floored at how much scriptural evidence they gave in one neat little package. Very fascinating book!

Greetings,

I've had many email convervations with Shelley Quinn regarding her book Ten Commandments Twice Removed. Please keep in mind, I like her gentle spirit and have enjoyed listening to her on certain topics.

It's unfortunate she takes the Uriah Smith and G.I. Butler position on the Two Covenants (the gospel), the same one that Ellen White rebuked them for. Shelley would not budge. It's hard to change positions after writing and promoting a book so heavily. Perhaps you may look into the position that Ellen White endorsed by Waggoner, which she said would lighten up this world with His glory. That's why we are still here. Any interest in seeing Waggoner's position? Read The Glad Tidings by Waggoner. I will gladly share some of the history behind it and the teachings on the Two Covenants.

"The terms of the 'old covenant' were, Obey and live" ... The 'new covenant' was established upon 'better promises'--the promise of forgivenss of sins, and of the grace of God to renew the heart and bring it into harmony with the principles of God's law" PP. p. 372. There has never been any value in the old covenant. Shelley says there is value in it. Waggoner says 'No." Shelley does see the old covenant as ceremonial and the new as grace, time periods, if you will. Waggoner saw the covenants as an experience of the heart, not time periods. The old is obey and live, the new is based on God's promises. Ellen said, that Smith was wasting his time coming up with another postion opposing Waggoner. ... Perhaps you're interested in investigating this. It has everything to do with the gospel we present to the world. Pray on this matter, perhaps providential?

blessings to you,
John

 

[LookUp]

The light haired MC of the show, I forget his name, comes across as self-indulgent and heads off any real discussions, in favor of showy musical performances. I hope he becomes a human among humans, and lets the human condition show forth in discussions. After all it was humanity that Jesus visited, healed, and died for. Jesus never sought real estate, fame, or the limelight...he avoided overt attention, he was a mobile friend of mankind, and a healer of the sick and afflicted among us. Jesus first sought to teach humility by his own example, seeking "followers" not first-in-liners.

 

[rjoymac]

I realy like Doug Batchelor,and Kenneth Cox.