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dclem

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First of all, I am truly sorry that you suffered abuse as a child. It is a horrible thing that no one should have to go through.

I am also very happy for you that you have been able to get over it as you have. I have forgiven Tommy as well. However, I stayed silent for years and others were abused. That's my fault. Also, I am now a minister and work with teenagers. Can you see the damage that it would bring to my ministry if my name came up in this later and I hadn't said anything?

I'm not trying to be vindictive. I'm speaking out to protect my ministry and my teens.
 
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I am also very happy for you that you have been able to get over it as you have. I have forgiven Tommy as well. However, I stayed silent for years and others were abused. That's my fault.
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Your decision to stay silent for those years does not make you culpable for the other abuses. If you truely believe that then you are in need of some councelling. Sorry but I call it like I see it.

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PB how long do you think it took? You have no idea what my age was when I was abused. Go figure....
 
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Jim,

It doesn't hurt to be kind.

I hope I haven't been unkind to you sir. If you feel I have then I apologize. The very nature of adversarial dialogue seems unkind on both sides. I am trying my best to show the love of Christ in what I say. I do not want to use an invective stance anymore with you or anyone else. I always try to end my communicae's with a blessing from God for you or who ever I am responding to, or have you ignored that?

As far as Danny and Walt goes their defense if needed will come from documented testimonies of visits by pastors and co-workers from 3ABN who tried in vain to get Linda to stop her affair , illicit or not , with this Doctor. If you use the legal scale of balances to weigh what Linda and you guys have written against Danny as opposed to what Danny has written against Linda it would lean extremely one way. Guess which way that would be?

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I just wanted to quote this one more time for those who may have missed it the first time around.


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I found this in post #236
quote=Pickle;33448798On April 27, 2004, Danny emphatically stated to someone who was not his wife (by his definition I believe this constituted "spiritual adultery") that his marriage was over because Linda had hidden his gun

This is what I am talking about Mr. Pickle.

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Your decision to stay silent for those years does not make you culpable for the other abuses. If you truely believe that then you are in need of some councelling. Sorry but I call it like I see it.

God Bless
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It's no one's call but mine about whether I need counselling.
 
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Jim,

You misunderstood me. I was referring to your saying that Duane needed counseling for the reason that you cited. And the facts are that if he had immediately reported what allegedly happened to him, it is highly likely that his brother would not have been allegedly victimized in 1988.


It isn't documented testimonies that Walt and Danny are going to need. It is documentation that there indeed was an adulterous affair going on. And that will be their difficulty. They will have a difficult time proving that many of their statements are true.

As far as the ASI statement goes, note the following facts:
  • Gailon and I did accept that ASI was capable of providing a fair forum, if they so chose, and we argued to this end with quite a few others.
  • Both sides were to have input into the ground rules, but it turned out that the grounds rules were set in stone before we began negotiating. For example, Harold would not consider our request that both sides get to ask questions, and that the evidence be deposited at the heritage rooms of college libraries after the process was over.
  • At no time did either Walt or Danny respond within the group discussions, yet Harold only faults Linda in this regard. Why?
I might beg to differ with other of Harold's assertions in your selected quote.
 
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I found this in post #236


This is what I am talking about Mr. Pickle.

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Notice that I did not say that her hiding his gun was a "basis" for the divorce, but rather than Danny said that their marriage was over because she hid his gun. And I still think that is an accurate summary of what he said.
 
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Notice that I did not say that her hiding his gun was a "basis" for the divorce, but rather than Danny said that their marriage was over because she hid his gun. And I still think that is an accurate summary of what he said.

This is essentially what I was talking about Bob when I was speaking of intent. You've taken a statement made by Danny out of context and applied a wrongful meaning to it to support what you want it to mean to slander Danny. I read that paragraph and this is not an accurate summary at all. Doing this is where you will be eaten alive in a case of libel in court.

Twisting it around to make it sound as though it was Danny's excuse for divorcing her is where the slander and wrongful maligning comes in.

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I can respect you for your opinion, but when I read what he wrote, I still come up with the conclusion that the straw that broke the camel's back was Linda hiding his gun. If she hadn't have hid his gun, he never would have written her sister that day and said that the marriage was over.
 
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well, actually you do not have to put up with anything because you do not have to come in here. the accusers are on both sides, cliff2

 
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NOW YOU ARE GETTING ME MAD. you have no idea what these victims are going through. i was abused by my father and it took me 33 years to find the courage to stand up for myself! and what made me finally do that was finding out that he had done the same to my daugher when she was 12yrs. old and to my neice when she was 5yrs. old so you need to put a lid on it!



 
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