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My understanding is that that is not how the allegations in Virginia came to light.
He certainly had a lot of reports from Illinois, didn't he?I am with PP, if he got one report of this type of abuse, he needed to investigate it.
Could be that my friend is wrong. How many churches does he have, and how large are they?I believe that was true when he was in Arkansas. Now my understanding is he has been hired on regular conference salary since he moved to Oklahoma.
Not really, just means the person might have been clueless to the situation. Just becaue taht one man didnt' know, doesn't mean there was no "dirt". I am with PP, if he got one report of this type of abuse, he needed to investigate it.
Seems to me there was something before Dryden got there, but the details on that haven't been clear to me.There was no allegations whatsoever in DunLoring...until Dryden came there.
There was no allegations whatsoever in DunLoring...until Dryden came there. He was the one that said there were allegations and that is after he went around trying to find dirt where there wasn't any. No allegations were made when he came there. As stated previous, I know someone on the church board there. They are aware that he went looking for something when no claims at all had been made and even that same church board has not been given any names after all of this time. In other words, Dryden had big statements to make but then never produced the people he said were making these claims, nor did he even produce names.
saying somebody and something at sometime; isn't any kind of productive conclusion.I am aquainted with someone that goes to the Dun Loring church. They said Dryden was seeking people out asking questions such as "did you see anything at all done inappropiately when TS was here? The person said he talked to Dryden directly on this subject. He ask Dryden why he was trying to find dirt where there was none. That shows me the motive and intent.
i believe icedragon is a cold, scaly dragon. are you saying he is not? ;~(A screen name is just that. It does not have to say who the person behind it is. would it outrage you to find that Tomatoe is not a tomato, Peach a peach, or Icedragon a scaly monster? Are they being deceitful?
Steffan, I know many retired pastors who are called pastor. I also know many pastors who are not ordained. Is Ronnie Shelton called a pastor? Is he ordained? How about John Dinzey? Is Joe Obrien? Roi Ewing? 3ABN has them working as pastors in the pastoral department. Is 3ABN perpetrating a deception on the viewers and callers? Where are they pastoring? What are the names of their churchs? When were they ordained? Have they ever cleared up that misunderstanding? Have any of them made any public statement that they are not pastors to counter 3ABN's statement that they are? Which person at 3ABN approved of them being called pastors? Did Danny? Does that make him a liar?
If Dryden had even heard of what had happened in Illinois, he had a pastoral responsibility to ask questions. It is also possible that someone, or more, told Dryden what had happened when he arrived. People in an abusive situation seldom trust those in authority who surround and share authority with the abuser. It is likely that they would not want to share what had happened with their abuser's church board for fear of the reaction that too many have endured: suspicion and abuse from their church.There was no allegations whatsoever in DunLoring...until Dryden came there. He was the one that said there were allegations and that is after he went around trying to find dirt where there wasn't any. No allegations were made when he came there. As stated previous, I know someone on the church board there. They are aware that he went looking for something when no claims at all had been made and even that same church board has not been given any names after all of this time. In other words, Dryden had big statements to make but then never produced the people he said were making these claims, nor did he even produce names.
saying somebody and something at sometime; isn't any kind of productive conclusion.
It seems to me that this attitude makes having any adult conversation with Tomatoe impossibleI am satisfied with what I know and how I know it. I do not feel obligated in anyway to provide the answers of how or why I have that information.
cold and scaly, never thought of my self that way? Actually my name was taken from a jacket of the same name. the idea of the icedragon is that unlike conventional fire breathing dragons, this dragon ice breating dragon. you will be turned to ice instead of ash if he breaths on you.i believe icedragon is a cold, scaly dragon. are you saying he is not? ;~(
Agreed, but then he should have turned it over to the proper authorities, not take it upon himself to have meetings and send out letters.It would be inexcusable for a pastor who finds allegations of abuse NOT to ask around. That would be the height of pastoral irresponsibility.
This has been my point from the beginning. Glenn Dryden has a history of getting in everyone's business. Furthermore, the list of suggested "action items" he wrote up absolutely infuriates me every time I read it. Who is he to make up such a list? He doesn't have a clue what the victims need as far as closure is concerned.and as another example:
www save3abn com / glenn - dryden - to - walt - thompson - may - 2003 . htm
it is interesting that dryden wants to control all communications between dr. thompson and any of the "victims" or their families . . . what would be the purpose or necessity of his calling the families first . . . dryden also follows this with a list of demands (blackmail anyone?) that have to be met, seemingly to satisfy no one in particular than dryden himself . . . the most curious of these demands is this one . . .
quote: "pastor glenn dryden of the ezra church of god (***-***-****) should be consulted as to the victims of whom he is aware and as to which of these may be contacted directly."
again the focus is on himself and his control of the situation . . . he also says that there should be contact with the franklin county police dept . . . is this the same department that was contacted by someone when the allegations where first made and the department found no substantial evidence to pursue an investigation or charges . . .
the final demand on the list is an effort by dryden to force tommy to disparage himself to all of the people he had ever worked with or for . . . does this give credence to the claim of jealousy - i would argue that even at the very least it circumstantially does . . . dryden is known to have strangely appeared behind tommy after every appointment he had and each and every time trying to disparage tommy . . .
Agreed, but then he should have turned it over to the proper authorities, not take it upon himself to have meetings and send out letters.
Duane, that would only be for allegations that concerned minors, correct? The ones involving adults would have to be handled in house, correct?Agreed, but then he should have turned it over to the proper authorities, not take it upon himself to have meetings and send out letters.
Pickle,Duane, that would only be for allegations that concerned minors, correct? The ones involving adults would have to be handled in house, correct?
Perhaps you know something I don't. Do you know for a fact that he did not report them?Why didn't Dryden report the allegations of abuse against minors to the authorities?
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