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Dr. Dino's Science?
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JohnR7
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A 6000 year old earth is perhaps one of the most difficult creation theorys to defend. About the only thing you can do is assign everything to the flood that took place 4300 years ago.
So for example, all of the fossels were created during the "world wide" flood. All of the bones they find, either of man or monkey or dinosour were life that was destroyed during the flood.
The flood starts to become a catch all for everything. It is like trying to build all of your doctorine on one scripture.
The "other" YEC (young earth creation) theory is that the days of Genesis were 1000 years in length but there was a gap between verse one and verse two of Genesis chapter one. It is still difficult to get things to line up, but at least it gives you a lot more to work with. According to this theory, God started over again. Because the Bible says the earth was replenished.
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There are a number of sites that deal with Hovind fraudulent science. Here's a couple:
http://www.geocities.com/kenthovind/
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/
edited to add: http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp
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I as a Christian agree totally with Dr Hovind and do not see how any other christian could disagree with his views as they line up with the bible!I highly reccomend drdino .com . I think if you are not a christian ,you would have trouble with his views as you have trouble with GOD's views!
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Yeah, see, umm... I hate to tell you this, but the Institute for Creation Research and Answers in Genesis aren't too pleased with Hovind's pseudoscience. Possibly because they have the ridiculous notion that the truth is not based on falsehood.
Christians disagree with his views because they don't automatically swallow anything they like to hear.
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Most of "Dr" Dino's claims are not even considered by some of the larger creationist groups to be good claims.
I fail to believe anything from someone who doesnt take the time to research BarCodes but spouts a myth about all BarCodes having 666 in them, in his FAQ. The fact that a quick google search can prove this wrong, doesnt lead any credit to his other work.
As far as the "if you doubt Dr Dino, you doubt god" I have a question:
God is the creator of the earth, right?
scientists who study the earth have shown through countless tests and studies that the earth is older than 6000 years and that evolution exists.
So, either the literal translation of the bible is wrong, or the earth is wrong.
If the literal bible is right, then the earth, gods creation, is wrong.
why is god lieing to us? Why is god purposly trying to decieve us?
Would god lie to us?
I fail to believe anything from someone who doesnt take the time to research BarCodes but spouts a myth about all BarCodes having 666 in them, in his FAQ. The fact that a quick google search can prove this wrong, doesnt lead any credit to his other work.
As far as the "if you doubt Dr Dino, you doubt god" I have a question:
God is the creator of the earth, right?
scientists who study the earth have shown through countless tests and studies that the earth is older than 6000 years and that evolution exists.
So, either the literal translation of the bible is wrong, or the earth is wrong.
If the literal bible is right, then the earth, gods creation, is wrong.
why is god lieing to us? Why is god purposly trying to decieve us?
Would god lie to us?
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Francie, if you are interested in discussing Hovind's claims, I suggest you start a thread and pick, oh, three or four of his arguments that you think are the best. You may be surprised and disheartened to find out how little basis his claims have in reality.
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"Dr." Hovind's "science" is completely fraudulent, his claims have no basis in reality. There is almost irrefutable proof that the earth is more than 6000 years old. Even fundamentalist christian sites like AiG and ICR disagree with Hovind.
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The main flaw in Kent Hovind's science is that it isn't science.
Here's part of the "About CSE" statement for his Creation Science Evangelism organisation:
"Creation Science Evangelism was started in 1989 by Dr. Kent Hovind (a high-school science teacher for 15 years). This ministry exists to support and proclaim the truth of God's Word, demonstrating the perfect harmony of the Biblical record with factual science and history. Additionally, CSE sets out to demonstrate the fallacies and deceptions of modern evolutionary thinking._We believe the Bible is literally true and scientifically accurate."
"The ministry of CSE has three main goals:
* To strengthen your faith in the word of God._ We believe the Bible is the infallible, inspired word of the living God.
* If you are not saved, we want you to have a personal relationship with the creator, Jesus Christ.
* If you are saved, and you are not doing much for the Lord, we want to make you uncomfortable._ There is war going on, we all need to get busy. _ God has a ministry for everyone."
This has nothing to do with science._
Here's part of the "About CSE" statement for his Creation Science Evangelism organisation:
"Creation Science Evangelism was started in 1989 by Dr. Kent Hovind (a high-school science teacher for 15 years). This ministry exists to support and proclaim the truth of God's Word, demonstrating the perfect harmony of the Biblical record with factual science and history. Additionally, CSE sets out to demonstrate the fallacies and deceptions of modern evolutionary thinking._We believe the Bible is literally true and scientifically accurate."
"The ministry of CSE has three main goals:
* To strengthen your faith in the word of God._ We believe the Bible is the infallible, inspired word of the living God.
* If you are not saved, we want you to have a personal relationship with the creator, Jesus Christ.
* If you are saved, and you are not doing much for the Lord, we want to make you uncomfortable._ There is war going on, we all need to get busy. _ God has a ministry for everyone."
This has nothing to do with science._
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No one can prove how old the earth is. I havn't heard of any proof that the earth is more 6000 years old, can you please tell me about it...
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Technically, no one can "prove" the Earth is more than 6000 years old, anymore than one can "prove" the Universe wasn't created 15 minutes ago with everyone's memories intact.
Science, however, deals in evidence, and there are various lines of evidence that demonstrate the Earth is quite old. For more, visit: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
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Whether we are Christians or something else hardly bears on the validity of Hovind's claims. This is a science forum, and Hovind's arguments will be treated accordingly. Submitting reality to a theological litmus test is a common error of YECs, Hovind being no exception. You should be careful, Francie, of committing the same error.
If Hovind is dealing in good science, then the theological underpinnings are irrelevant because reality will vindicate him. If not, then his position will be falsified, you will have learned a valuable lesson about what science is and isn't, and you will be spared the embarrassment of endorsing psuedo-science in the future.
If Hovind is dealing in good science, then the theological underpinnings are irrelevant because reality will vindicate him. If not, then his position will be falsified, you will have learned a valuable lesson about what science is and isn't, and you will be spared the embarrassment of endorsing psuedo-science in the future.
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gladiatrix
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Why???
Because we don't walk in ditto-head, lock-step with YOUR definition of one? Who appointed you the "one-true-judge" of just who and who is not a Christian anyway?
As for "Dr. Dino's science"??? Looks like another oxymoron like "creation science" to me.
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Looking at the evidence though, we can say that the evidence says the earth is more than 6000 years old. Most forms of dateing say that its older than 6000 years.
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Most, if not all of Dr Dino's "evidence" has either been proven false, or is based on belief and is not true evidence.
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His interpretation of the evidence says the earth is only 6000 years old. His overriding requirement is that the answer be consistent with a literal reading of Genesis. That is not a scientific requirement.
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JohnR7
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Nothing has been proven. Maybe for you there is no doubt, so maybe it has been "proven" to you. But Dr. Dino does not seem to be convinced.
First of all, prove to me that you exist, then prove to me that the Earth exists, then you can attempt to prove it's millions or billions of years old.
Sense you can not prove to me that you exist, or that the earth even exists at all. Then you can not prove that it's billions of years old. Your so called proof requires people to assume things to be true, that may or may not be true.
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