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35 year evolution experiment *FAIL*

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I thought YECs rejected genetic evidence. After all, it disproves things like a global flood or Adam and Eve. Why suddenly accept it now as it relates to evolution?

Those who believe God created the Earth in six days, flooded the world in judgment, and recognize Adam as the father of all do not reject genetic evidence.

BOTH Creationists and Darwinianists examine, study, and conclude on the exact same pieces of evidence. It is not the rejection of genetic evidence - it is the rejection of some of the interpretations given to that evidence.

Based on our subjective philosophical world views (materialism, naturalism, uniformitarianism, idealism, etc.) we formulate interpretations for the evidence - the evidence itself is neutral. The true issue we face is not a scientific one, but a philosophical one - yes, on both sides.
 
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Those who believe God created the Earth in six days, flooded the world in judgment, and recognize Adam as the father of all do not reject genetic evidence.

BOTH Creationists and Darwinianists examine, study, and conclude on the exact same pieces of evidence. It is not the rejection of genetic evidence - it is the rejection of some of the interpretations given to that evidence.

Based on our subjective philosophical world views (materialism, naturalism, uniformitarianism, idealism, etc.) we formulate interpretations for the evidence - the evidence itself is neutral. The true issue we face is not a scientific one, but a philosophical one - yes, on both sides.
I think I should try that the next time my housemate accuses me of stealing food.

After all, the evidence - missing eggs, depleting containers of minced garlic, disappearing noodles, and the fact that no other housemate cooks - is neutral. Based on his subjective philosophical worldview, he formulates interpretations for the evidence. The true issue he faces is not a scientific one, but a philosophical one.

If only he began by assuming that I am a wonderful, honest person, and studiously applied that world view throughout his interpretation of the evidence, he would readily agree with me that the real problem is that our kitchen is being raided by invisible drop bears. Nasty Australian wildlife!
 
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I think I should try that the next time my housemate accuses me of stealing food.

After all, the evidence - missing eggs, depleting containers of minced garlic, disappearing noodles, and the fact that no other housemate cooks - is neutral. Based on his subjective philosophical worldview, he formulates interpretations for the evidence. The true issue he faces is not a scientific one, but a philosophical one.

You joke, but essentially you are correct. He did not physically see you. He is making an assumption that has the potential to be wrong. A thief could have broken in and made eggs. Seemingly unlikely but still very possible.
 
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You joke, but essentially you are correct. He did not physically see you. He is making an assumption that has the potential to be wrong. A thief could have broken in and made eggs. Seemingly unlikely but still very possible.
You're lucky we don't know your address.
 
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I've seen some answer - but they then usually flat-out refuse to accept the inconsistency it puts them in.

I do not reject certain types of forensic evidence. Some clues require a much higher degree of assumption than others.
 
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I do not reject certain types of forensic evidence. Some clues require a much higher degree of assumption than others.
I would love to hear more about the types of forensic evidence you do and do not accept. And about which convicted murderers you believe should be released from prison.
 
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Congratulations, evolution doesn't work quite the way we think it did.

In other news, creationism is still the unproven unqualified nonsense it always was as a result of this.
Perhaps if the science doesn't work out then one has to question how the science is done?
Could it be that God was right after all? The thing is, God is alot furthar along than we are at discovering science, which He created. Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to throw out God's Word (or give some excuse like Genesis isn't literal) and let our discovery of science catch up with what God has told us to be true in His Word.
 
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Perhaps if the science doesn't work out then one has to question how the science is done?

Why? It's not that the science didn't work out, it just didn't work out as expected. There was still genetic change over time, just not the kind predicted.

Could it be that God was right after all? The thing is, God is alot furthar along than we are at discovering science, which He created.

Sure God's right. He created everything via the scientific processes we are now discovering, like evolution and cosmology. :thumbsup:

Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to throw out God's Word (or give some excuse like Genesis isn't literal) and let our discovery of science catch up with what God has told us to be true in His Word.

Who says we threw it out?
 
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Why? It's not that the science didn't work out, it just didn't work out as expected. There was still genetic change over time, just not the kind predicted.



Sure God's right. He created everything via the scientific processes we are now discovering, like evolution and cosmology. :thumbsup:



Who says we threw it out?
Where in scripture does it say that God used evolution?
 
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