2012: Whaddya Think

[AV1611VET]

I'll tell you what's going to happen. I'm going to throw a huge end of the world party, wake up the next morning with a hangover, and go grab a coffee.

If the world is going to end I am going to be to drunk to worry about it.

I wonder if scientists get a kickback from the alcohol industry?

 

[Cabal]

I wonder if scientists get a kickback from the alcohol industry?

Why don't you ask the religionists who propagated this doomsday scenario?

 

[Belk]

Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together...

Is it true?

Yes, it is true. This man has no <Bleep>.

LOL.

 

[TerranceL]

I pan to lead a Freemen rebellion around 2012, with antimatter as spice, and surprise these mayan aliens with a nuclear holocaust as soon as they get anywhere near Mars's orbit.

MUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD DIB!

 

[TerranceL]

When I went to Chichen Itza our Mayan guide told us the story of how the Yucatan was named (which appears to be anecdotal). The Spanish asked the Mayans what the land was called and they responded with "Oo-yu-tekan" (or something like that) which meant "we don't understand what you're saying".

LOL

That's the funniest thing i've read all day.

 

[Alunyel]

When I went to Chichen Itza our Mayan guide told us the story of how the Yucatan was named (which appears to be anecdotal). The Spanish asked the Mayans what the land was called and they responded with "Oo-yu-tekan" (or something like that) which meant "we don't understand what you're saying".

I wanna go there so bad!

Did you go during the equinox?

Also wanna go to Tenochtitlan/Tlatelolco. I know they're Aztec, not Mayan, but still incredibly impressive ruins.

 

[thaumaturgy]

I wanna go there so bad!

I went to Chichen Itza a few years back. I was having the world's worst vacation in Playa Del Carmen and after my sister-in-law broke her leg and my wife immediately volunteered to fly back with her, and I was unable to get on the same flight, I had a couple days by myself wandering around. So after I dropped my wife off at the airport in Cancun I was driving back down to PdC and saw the turn off for Chichen Itza. So I drove out there.

It was pretty cool overall. At that time you could still climb to the top of the central "pyramid". Very neat and kinda scary compared to American places. Virtually nothing in the way of "safety". Just a big thick rope running down the middle of the stairs, no hand rails. On the top virtually nothing to keep one from falling off.

I've since heard people can no longer climb the pyramid.

Unfortuantely the famous statue of Chocmul was off-limits at that time so I couldn't see it.

Got to see the ball courts.

Overall it was very neat.

But generally I dislike heat and humidity so overall, despite the fun of Chichen Itza, the "vacation" in Yucatan was a horror show. Not least because a brother-in-law got a 'deal' on a rental home with no air conditioning in the middle of July during the rainy season. Can't keep the windows open enough to let a breeze in because the rain is pouring down and flooding the rooms.

 

[thaumaturgy]

I wonder if scientists get a kickback from the alcohol industry?

Are you of the impression that the "scientists" are somehow of the opinion that the earth will end in 2012?

 

[AV1611VET]

But whaddya think?

I think 2012 is the Mayan's version of Y2K.

 

[Wedjat]

Did anyone honestly believe Y2K was going to happen (and by happen I mean actually be a catastrophe, not just a computer glitch) that wasn't an idiot?
At the time I thought it was a zipper company.

 

[Gracchus]

Nothing will happen in 2012 because the world ended in 1843.

 

[AV1611VET]

Did anyone honestly believe Y2K was going to happen (and by happen I mean actually be a catastrophe, not just a computer glitch) that wasn't an idiot?
At the time I thought it was a zipper company.

From Wikipedia:

Some warnings of what would happen if nothing were done were particularly dire:

&#8220; The Y2K problem is the electronic equivalent of the El Nino and there will be nasty surprises around the globe. &#8211; John Hamre, Deputy Secretary of Defense &#8221;

 

[AV1611VET]

Nothing will happen in 2012 because the world ended in 1843.

Yup --- Miller had his Y2K as well.

So did Manson with Helter Skelter.

But science always manages to top the list.

 

[Wedjat]

I would contend that John Hamre is an idiot.
Wouldn't be the first government official that was.

 

[thaumaturgy]

I think 2012 is the Mayan's version of Y2K.

Except that Y2K was theoretically possible based on how the human made computers were programmed to deal with date numbers based on human made constraints on the data architecture.

While the Mayan thing is more related to modern humans trying to interpret something that some unknown individuals in a known ancient civilization concocted and trying to put some meaning into it.

Imagine people having strange beliefs today based on their trying to interpret what the ancients wrote down at a time and place quite different technologically than today? Can you imagine that?

 

[AV1611VET]

Except that Y2K was theoretically possible...

So was Thalidomide --- it did not affect pregnant mice.

In fact, I would say lab tests on these mice and their unaffected offspring were submitted as scientific proof of the efficacy of this 'wonder drug'.

Our God-blessed U S of A didn't buy it, though, and stood up to science back then.

 

[thaumaturgy]

So was Thalidomide --- it did not affect pregnant mice.

In fact, I would say lab tests on these mice and their unaffected offspring were submitted as scientific proof of the efficacy of this 'wonder drug'.

Our God-blessed U S of A didn't buy it, though, and stood up to science back then.

Let's follow the train!

Mayan Calendar --> Y2K --> Thalidomide

I'm having a tough time predicting what the next stop will be...

 

[Wedjat]

You realize it wasn't science who started the Y2K hype right? "Science" if you just want to generalize (although actually just computer programmers) said "hey, we might have some issues here" the media was the one who went "ZOMG IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD HURRDURR"

 

[AV1611VET]

You realize it wasn't science who started the Y2K hype right? "Science" if you just want to generalize (although actually just computer programmers) said "hey, we might have some issues here" the media was the one who went "ZOMG IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD HURRDURR"

I'll actually give science the benefit of a doubt on this one.

I'll admit, it does sound more like the media who did the damage, than science.

 

[USincognito]

I wanna go there so bad!

Did you go during the equinox?

Also wanna go to Tenochtitlan/Tlatelolco. I know they're Aztec, not Mayan, but still incredibly impressive ruins.

There are plenty of cheap flights/package deals from the U.S. to Cancun/Mayan Riviera and once you get there every decent hotel will be able to book you into a tour package. Here's a few photos from my trip.
Kukulcan pyramid
Me on the pyramid steps
The ball court
Temple of the Warriors
El Caracol
And below is an attachment of me by Kukulcan's head (and you can see I was there in Oct., not the equinox).

But generally I dislike heat and humidity so overall, despite the fun of Chichen Itza, the "vacation" in Yucatan was a horror show. Not least because a brother-in-law got a 'deal' on a rental home with no air conditioning in the middle of July during the rainy season. Can't keep the windows open enough to let a breeze in because the rain is pouring down and flooding the rooms.

We couldn't go inside Kukulcan to see the Chac Mool there, and the ones on the Temple of the Warriors were roped off, but I did by a boss obsidian one that adorns a bookcase at home.

We stayed at a place on the Mayan Riviera about 10 miles south of PdC and went up there to see the shops one evening. I really enjoyed the vacation and was glad I went in Oct. instead of the summer. It was still pretty warm as you can tell by the sweat stains on the long sleeve shirt I wore to Chichen Itza because I took the malaria warnings a bit too seriously.