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You're fully incorrect, sir.
Dark Monk - how about repent and believe the Gospel?
Repent as in the metanoia meaning of the word.
Thinking about it - having heard some shocking altar calls in sermon reviews - I wonder how many of these people who fall away ever had the sense of extreme unworthiness and shame before God and that extreme gratitude when they realised what Jesus did for them of all people?
Allow me to correct you. You forgot the biggest one of all - do as Paul told you. The crux of Christianity has very little to do with what Jesus said, it has mostly to do with Paul. Just look at the things you quoted - where does Jesus mention them? He's pretty much silent. Paul, on the other hand, has a lot to say. Hmmm.......My understanding of being Christian is... (correct me if you disagree)...
Do as per what GOD says, and What Jesus Told us to do.
Without questioning, without reasoning, without arguing.
Like Abraham did.
Doesn't matter if your actions goes against the entire world or current society, We're Children of God and so we follow HIM, and not the world.
And this involves current issues such as...Sexual Immorality, Gay Marriage, Divorce, Marriage through GOD, Hedonism, Rationalism, Materialism, etc etc etc.
Not Bad Joey...
Do as per what GOD says, and What Jesus Told us to do.
Without questioning, without reasoning, without arguing.
Like Abraham did.
Doesn't matter if your actions goes against the entire world or current society, We're Children of God and so we follow HIM, and not the world.
And this involves current issues such as...Sexual Immorality, Gay Marriage, Divorce, Marriage through GOD, Hedonism, Rationalism, Materialism, etc etc etc.
Allow me to correct you. You forgot the biggest one of all - do as Paul told you. The crux of Christianity has very little to do with what Jesus said, it has mostly to do with Paul. Just look at the things you quoted - where does Jesus mention them? He's pretty much silent. Paul, on the other hand, has a lot to say. Hmmm.......
So the letters of Paul are in the 3rd person? What bible are you reading?Paul? you mean his disciples???
Everything in the bible are the words of Jesus Disciples..., Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, etc etc...
All what they ever did was to Follow Jesus, and all their teachings came from Jesus.
Most of the chapters are written as 3rd person, on how they observe Jesus, and What Jesus says to them.
So I don't know what you're getting at...
Let me correct you and you do need correcting.
Our relationship is Christ focused not works focused.
God doesnt love us more if we work and do things for Him and he doesnt love us any less if we sin.
He is God, He wants a relationship based on love.
I suggest a book by Sky Jethani called "With"
So the letters of Paul are in the 3rd person? What bible are you reading?
More importantly, though. If all Paul says is based on the words of Jesus you should have no trouble pointing us to those words in support of all those things you said...
Right hereWhere have I said that the letters of Paul are in 3rd person???Don't put words in my mouth
Everything in the bible are the words of Jesus Disciples..., Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, etc etc...
All what they ever did was to Follow Jesus, and all their teachings came from Jesus.
Most of the chapters are written as 3rd person, on how they observe Jesus, and What Jesus says to them.
I suspect you may not get a whole lot of support for that view. Saying Christians need to be unquestioning and Jews are stupid may not go down so well.moreover, the bible was written by Hebrews for Hebrews..., and even Christians read it with a Greek reasoning level.
So I would encourage you to read and try to understand how Hebrew Mentality thinks...
Greek Mentality includes reasoning, We need to reason everything why, what, when...
Hebrews don't..., for them is GOD says, I'll do, no need to question.
That's how Abraham did it..., God Said to him sacrifice your son, and his reply was OK, no even a why.
So in other words, the Greek way of thinking almost has destroyed the message of faith that the bible teaches.
So the letters of Paul are in the 3rd person? What bible are you reading?
More importantly, though. If all Paul says is based on the words of Jesus you should have no trouble pointing us to those words in support of all those things you said...
Right here
I suspect you may not get a whole lot of support for that view. Saying Christians need to be unquestioning and Jews are stupid may not go down so well.
I don't disagree with what you're saying..., You're right...
on the relationship part...with GOD
BUT
I completely disagree with the way you talk about God's Love...
You saying as it doesn't matter what we DO, god will always love us no matter what...and that's wrong.
God's love is by far NOT unconditional.
To the Christian the bible states clearly that His love is completely unconditional irrespective of our sin.
Once a person becomes a Christian and receives the Holly Spirit then we are His guaranteed. The Holy Spirit works within the Christian and brings us in to a closer relationship, its through God and the Spirit that we become less sinful, not ourselves.
I strongly suggest you read Ephesians and Romans
this as well
Predestination and the Love of God
Once a person becomes a Christian and receives the Holly Spirit then we are His guaranteed.
The word trinity doesnt exist in the bible, would you deny the Trinitys existence as well?
Also I was referring to Christians only, that text refers to everyone. A slight difference of point brother.
Also your understanding of the message is wrong in my opinion.
Let me correct what you say as I see fit.
I'm Christian, and I will continue doing sinful things because I am human, without prompthing from the Spirit I wouldn't ask for any Repentance , because GOD loves me unconditionally I have the spirit to guide my walk.
If you read Ephesians 1 you will see God chooses us, not us choosing God.
Arminianism is a Catholic works doctrine.
I thought most Baptists were now reformed, I thought most Protestants were to varying degrees.
No worries.More importantly, though. If all Paul says is based on the words of Jesus you should have no trouble pointing us to those words in support of all those things you said...
That doesn't really cut it as evidence of Jesus saying anything about "Sexual Immorality, Gay Marriage, Divorce, Marriage through GOD, Hedonism, Rationalism, Materialism, etc etc etc"I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. But rise and enter the city, and you will be told what you are to do. .
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