16:66

[Islam_mulia]

And indeed, for you in grazing livestock is a lesson. We give you drink from what is in their bellies - between excretion and blood - pure milk, palatable to drinkers. (16:66)

http://quran.com/16/66

I can only say that the reference is on the milk not being tainted with faeces and blood, which made it pure and palatable to be consumed. There is no connection between milk and people allergic or not allergic to it.

Similarly in verse 67:

And from the fruit of the date-palm and the vine, ye get out wholesome drink and food: behold, in this also is a sign for those who are wise. (16:67)

The similarity of reasoning in verses 66 and 67 are clear enough. The message is that God enables the production of milk or wholesome drink from cattles and palm-dates, respectively. These are Signs of His Power. There is no connection between milk and allergies or wholesome drink and drunkards.

You have brought a poor case. You can continue to be stubborn and raise a straw man argument. I really do not think any Muslim or even a careful and unbiased person would buy your argument.

I am done arguing over this.

 

[TG123]

Salaam Alaikum.

And indeed, for you in grazing livestock is a lesson. We give you drink from what is in their bellies - between excretion and blood - pure milk, palatable to drinkers. (16:66)

http://quran.com/16/66

I can only say that the reference is on the milk not being tainted with faeces and blood, which made it pure and palatable to be consumed. There is no connection between milk and people allergic or not allergic to it.

A) That is your interpretation. Tafsir Ibn Qathir does not state that the palatability of milk is connected to it not being tainted with faeces and blood. He separates that part from how palatable it is.

B) Even if the verse means to say that the separation of faeces and blood is what makes milk palatable to be consumed that would still not be true, because to many people it is not palatable.

Similarly in verse 67:

And from the fruit of the date-palm and the vine, ye get out wholesome drink and food: behold, in this also is a sign for those who are wise. (16:67)

Nothing said here about palatability, unlike in the previous verse.

The similarity of reasoning in verses 66 and 67 are clear enough. The message is that God enables the production of milk or wholesome drink from cattles and palm-dates, respectively. These are Signs of His Power. There is no connection between milk and allergies or wholesome drink and drunkards.

The difference is that 16:66 explicitly states that the milk is palatable for those who drink it. This is not the case.

I am sure that people can make non-alcoholic food from both date palms and vine, so why you bring that up is beyond me.

You have brought a poor case. You can continue to be stubborn and raise a straw man argument. I really do not think any Muslim or even a careful and unbiased person would buy your argument.

I am arguing that, contrary to what 16:66 says, it is not a true statement that milk is palatable for those who drink it. For most it is palatable. For many, it isn't. For some, it's even deadly.

I am done arguing over this.

Suit yourself.