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During the million reign of Christ, will all Christians live on earth and reign with Him?
During the million reign of Christ, will all Christians live on earth and reign with Him?
During the million reign of Christ, will all Christians live on earth and reign with Him?
According to amillennialism, Christ is reigning now and yes they are reigning together with Him. When the Lord returns it isn't to establish a temporal, earthly kingdom, but to consummate all things and the kingdom of God comes in fullness and it is forever and ever, world without end--a new heavens and a new earth.
-CryptoLlutheran
According to amillennialism, Christ is reigning now and yes they are reigning together with Him. When the Lord returns it isn't to establish a temporal, earthly kingdom, but to consummate all things and the kingdom of God comes in fullness and it is forever and ever, world without end--a new heavens and a new earth.
-CryptoLlutheran
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Psa 37:11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
It's possible that we will come and go between heaven and earth like the angels do.
It's possible that we will come and go between heaven and earth like the angels do.
The problem with this interpretation of scripture is that it ignores the explicit statements of Revelation 20 and of nearly half of the Old Testament. It assumes that all of these very many explicitly stated prophecies are only symbolic, and do not mean what they say.
The problem with that approach is that many of these explicit statements would have no meaning whatsoever if they did not actually mean what they say.
I will freely admit that many of the Old Testament prophecies could legitimately be interpreted to apply to the church. But many of them are of such a nature that they cannot logically be reduced to such an interpretation. I speak of the many detailed descriptions of future events that have never taken place, and the detailed definitions of future borders that have never been fulfilled.
I don't think so, however if you have bibical proof of this show me?
You are so far from the truth, and haven't got even a hent in the bible to back up what you say.
Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
We shall be Kings and Priest during the Millennium helping Christ reign on Earth.
- The dragon, the bottomless pit and the great chain (verses 1,2). Tempting though it may be to interpret verses 4-6 literally, consistency demands that if those verses are literal, then so are verses 1-2. Are there any prepared to argue that Satan is literally a dragon? Or that he can be bound with a literal chain, or cast into a literal bottomless pit?
the souls of them that were beheaded reigned (verse 4). Take a real close look at the verse. Who is it that reigned with Christ? Why, it was the souls of them that were beheaded. This verse says nothing at all about anyone reigning with Christ other than those who had been martyred for His cause- specifically, those who were beheaded. If this passage is talking about an earthly, millennial reign of Jesus, then it looks like youll have to lose your head if you wish to be part of that kingdom. And even then, itll only be your soul (as opposed to your resurrected body, and soul) that will reign with Him.
they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (verse 4) Now pay close attention here. Not only did the souls of these martyrs reign with Christ a thousand years, but they also lived with Christ a thousand years. According to some, this reign will last only a thousand years- not a day more or a day less. After that thousand years is over, they will cease to reign. But please observe that at the same time that they cease to reign with Christ, they will also cease to "live with Christ! Their living, and their reigning, will occur at the same time. If one ends, the other ends as well.
a thousand years (verse 4). OK, so this is a literal thousand years?? If so, then the reign is for a literal thousand years. No more, no less. And if reigned and thousand years are literal, then so too is lived. So, they lived a thousand years, no more, no less. Not a very hopeful millennium, if you ask me. I would like to suggest that the thousand years is a figure of speech, a symbol of something else. In Ps. 105:8 we are told that God remembers His covenant unto a thousand generations. Do you suppose that means that God counts a literal thousand generations, then He quits remembering His covenant? Of course not. It means that Gods memory of His covenant is perfect, it is complete. The thousand years is a figure of completeness, and it does not denote a cycle of time.
the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished (verse 5). OK, now who are these? If this is referring to the rest of the Christians (i.e., those who did not die as martyrs, and were therefore not among the souls of them that were beheaded), then youve got a problem, for according to your theory, all the saints will be raised before the thousand years begins. But this verse says that they will be raised when it has finished. On the other hand, if the rest of the dead refers to the resurrection of the wicked, youve still got a problem. First, if this refers to the wicked, then when are the righteous raised? This verse tells us nothing about that, does it? Second, if this refers to the resurrection of the wicked, then over whom are the beheaded saints and Christ going to reign or rule for a thousand years? There is no one over whom they can rule because the wicked arent raised until the thousand years is finished, but then itll be over and they will not be able to rule over them. (Of course, going back to the point I made in #3, above, since their reign will cease after a thousand years, then their lives will also cease. So, I suppose the wicked will have the earth all to themselves. My, this is becoming more interesting the more I think about it.)
Anyone can see none of the requisite parts of pre- or post- mellinial-ism can be discovered in Rev. 20. There is...
-no mention of the second coming of Christ...
-no mention of a bodily resurrection...
-no mention of a thousand year reign of Christ...
-no mention of a reign of Christ on the earth...
-no mention of the literal throne of David...
-no mention of Jerusalem of Palestine.
As a matter of fact, if we take a literal approach as most would do, there is no mention of us.
In fact, theres not even a mention of Christ on the earth- either with or without a reign. So many things presumed by so many from so little that they need for their doctrine to be true, yet theyre not to be found in what they claim for their proof-text.
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Some say the scriptures state that Christ will have a thousand year reign and that those that are overcomers will reign with him?? ??
Well, not quite. Let’s dissect the Revelation 20:1-5 together, and as we go along I’d like all to make a note of what is and is not said.
In fact, there’s not even a mention of Christ on the earth- either with or without a reign. So many things presumed by so many from so little that they need for their doctrine to be true, yet they’re not to be found in what they claim for their proof-text.
It is at this point I would refer those mentioned above to read Revelation 22:18-19…
Yep! thats the way I pretty much read itRev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Psa 37:11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.