10 Commandments

[6 000]

As we all know the 10 commandment were created for humanity to live by. And we also know that if we disobey these rules we have fallen short of the glory of God and must ask for the forgiveness of him . My question is If God created the 10 commandments, then he must have intended for humanity to never ever be able to keep them. I find this troubling why create rules that no one can ever keep. Why not create ones that mankind can keep.

 

[Witchy Bee]

All divinity works in mysterious ways, as I'm sure you've heard it said. Personally I don't think any deity has written out a set of specific rules of which we must abide to be worthy of that deity's love and presence. I think it's enough to just try to be a good person in general, make an effort to harm no one, and keep an open heart and open mind. I strive to do that everyday and it's not as easy as it sounds. It's in our nature to be kind to our fellow man, we just need to learn to tap into it.

I'll admit that I'm not familiar with the 10 commandments. I believe there is an equal amount of good and bad in everyone, and it's up to us to decide which one we want to dominate our lives and spirit. I aim to be more aware of myself and the effect I have on everyone around me and live as best I can in perfect love and perfect trust, but I accept that no one is perfect.

I'm sorry to ramble, I do that at times.

 

[lordbt]

My question is If God created the 10 commandments, then he must have intended for humanity to never ever be able to keep them.

Why do you say that?

 

[Zebra1552]

As we all know the 10 commandment were created for humanity to live by. And we also know that if we disobey these rules we have fallen short of the glory of God and must ask for the forgiveness of him . My question is If God created the 10 commandments, then he must have intended for humanity to never ever be able to keep them. I find this troubling why create rules that no one can ever keep. Why not create ones that mankind can keep.

Perhaps because God likes us being codependent?

 

[Zebra1552]

All divinity works in mysterious ways, as I'm sure you've heard it said. Personally I don't think any deity has written out a set of specific rules of which we must abide to be worthy of that deity's love and presence. I think it's enough to just try to be a good person in general, make an effort to harm no one, and keep an open heart and open mind. I strive to do that everyday and it's not as easy as it sounds. It's in our nature to be kind to our fellow man, we just need to learn to tap into it.

I'll admit that I'm not familiar with the 10 commandments. I believe there is an equal amount of good and bad in everyone, and it's up to us to decide which one we want to dominate our lives and spirit. I aim to be more aware of myself and the effect I have on everyone around me and live as best I can in perfect love and perfect trust, but I accept that no one is perfect.

I'm sorry to ramble, I do that at times.

Wait a minute, you don't know what the Decalogue is, yet you say no deity has come up with list of rules? Go figure out what it is, because you're contradicting what the 10 commandments are when you give that second statement.

 

[6 000]

Why do you say that?

Well i say this simply because man cannot keep these commandments and if god created us then he knew this.

 

[6 000]

Perhaps because God likes us being codependent?

Well if he does, we has taken away free will by not letting us chose whether or not to keep the commandments

 

[lordbt]

Which commandments are you having difficulty with?

 

[Witchy Bee]

Wait a minute, you don't know what the Decalogue is, yet you say no deity has come up with list of rules? Go figure out what it is, because you're contradicting what the 10 commandments are when you give that second statement.

I didn't say that I know no deity has come up with a list of rules, I said that I don't think they have.
However, I did go read them. Why is it most of them are about sacrifice?

 

[Zebra1552]

I didn't say that I know no deity has come up with a list of rules, I said that I don't think they have.
However, I did go read them. Why is it most of them are about sacrifice?

Um... which 10 commandments are you reading?

 

[Zebra1552]

Well if he does, we has taken away free will by not letting us chose whether or not to keep the commandments

You're right, we did take away the ability to not sin when we corrupted all of mankind by not listening to God. Good point, I'll use that in future conversations.

 

[reverend C]

Which commandments are you having difficulty with?

your question implies that you have mastered them. is that the case?

 

[lordbt]

Yes

 

[nolongerhome]

Yes

I find that hard to believe, considering the fact you have an atheist label attached to your profile.

It would make the whole worshiping God as God, keeping the Sabbath holy, and those kind of commandments difficult to maintain, I would think.

I also find it hard to beleive that you don't lie, as everyone lies to some extent basically every day, nor that you don't ever covet anything that doesn't belong to you, because, again, that is a fairly standard every day emotional response for a human being.

So, the combination of the fact that you are a human and the fact you don't believe in God suggests to me that you probably aren't doing so well on about half of the 10.

 

[solarwave]

You orginal question seems to assume that if God hadn't of told us about those rules they wouldn't be in effect, that right and wrong is somehow Gods choice. My thoughts are that good and evil exist as they do reguardless of if God tells us. If God didn't tell us murder was wrong, wouldn't it still be wrong?

The biblical reason for the 10 commandments is exactly because we can't keep them. The moral law is there to show sin for what it is and to show we fall short of God and that we need God to be saved. I believe the point is that is shows us we can't save ourselves, only through God.

 

[6 000]

You orginal question seems to assume that if God hadn't of told us about those rules they wouldn't be in effect, that right and wrong is somehow Gods choice. My thoughts are that good and evil exist as they do reguardless of if God tells us. If God didn't tell us murder was wrong, wouldn't it still be wrong?

The biblical reason for the 10 commandments is exactly because we can't keep them. The moral law is there to show sin for what it is and to show we fall short of God and that we need God to be saved. I believe the point is that is shows us we can't save ourselves, only through God.

Well my original question presumes that god created everything. And that does include right and wrong, so this means that if he created human being then he created our moral code. So it is God who defined sin, thus making murder wrong.

 

[Blackmarch]

As we all know the 10 commandment were created for humanity to live by.

actaully they were given to the israelites... but they are applicable outside of that.

And we also know that if we disobey these rules we have fallen short of the glory of God and must ask for the forgiveness of him .

My question is If God created the 10 commandments, then he must have intended for humanity to never ever be able to keep them. I find this troubling why create rules that no one can ever keep. Why not create ones that mankind can keep.

many people keep commandments quite well.

 

[solarwave]

Well my original question presumes that god created everything. And that does include right and wrong, so this means that if he created human being then he created our moral code. So it is God who defined sin, thus making murder wrong.

If you presume that then yes, but I think you presume wrongly

 

[The Nihilist]

If you presume that then yes, but I think you presume wrongly

Who do you imagine decides what is sinful, if not god?

 

[solarwave]

I think sin is sin by the nauture of what it is. It is wrong to murder because it is wrong to murder, its just how reality works.