1 Cor. 7:1 - Why is it good not to touch a woman?

[Na Nach Oi!]

1 Corinthians 7:1 - Why is it good not to touch a woman?

Is it because (modern) marriage s-cks to men?

 

[SkyWriting]

1 Corinthians 7:1 - Why is it good not to touch a woman?

Is it because (modern) marriage s-cks to men?

7 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

 

[Na Nach Oi!]

7 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

So, marriage is not for asexual person?

 

[SkyWriting]

So, marriage is not for asexual person?

As long as that is not a typing error (asexual) then no.

 

[Na Nach Oi!]

As long as that is not a typing error (asexual) then no.

I know the meaning of the term "asexual" = unique men without sexual desire, not included the eunuchs (castrated men).

 

[SkyWriting]

I know the meaning of the term "asexual" = unique men without sexual desire, not included the eunuchs (castrated men).

And some older married men.

 

[PollyJetix]

1 Corinthians 7:1 - Why is it good not to touch a woman?

Actually, that is not a good translation.
The book of 1 Corinthians was written in answer to a now-lost letter from the Corinthian church, to Paul.
And in the book we know now as 1 Corinthians, we have a mixture of questions and answers.

In the Greek, there was no punctuation, like question marks and quotation marks, like we have today.
It is easy to read a Greek question like a statement.
You had to know the clues, to know what are questions, and what are answers.

A more correct translation would be,
"Now concerning the things about which you wrote to me: "Is it good for a man not to touch a woman?"

And Paul's answer follows:
"But, because of fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

The clue is the word "but". It occurs often throughout the book.
In the Greek, that word is a disjunctive conjunction, which means it expresses opposition to the preceding thought.

 

[Na Nach Oi!]

Actually, that is not a good translation.
The book of 1 Corinthians was written in answer to a now-lost letter from the Corinthian church, to Paul.
And in the book we know now as 1 Corinthians, we have a mixture of questions and answers.

In the Greek, there was no punctuation, like question marks and quotation marks, like we have today.
It is easy to read a Greek question like a statement.
You had to know the clues, to know what are questions, and what are answers.

A more correct translation would be,
"Now concerning the things about which you wrote to me: "Is it good for a man not to touch a woman?"

And Paul's answer follows:
"But, because of fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

The clue is the word "but". It occurs often throughout the book.
In the Greek, that word is a disjunctive conjunction, which means it expresses opposition to the preceding thought.

What if, because of fornication, every man is getting married, but in the end, he traps himself in sexless marriage and in the s-ckiness of marriage AKA "marriage prison"....

Errr.... I think it is a different issue, isn't it?

 

[Goodbook]

Well too bad, you needed to think about that before you got married and take the vows. Thats why theres such a thing as pre marital counselling. You cant just go and hire a prostitute, talk to your wife. Maybe you smell and she doesnt like it.

 

[Na Nach Oi!]

Well too bad, you needed to think about that before you got married and take the vows. Thats why theres such a thing as pre marital counselling. You cant just go and hire a prostitute, talk to your wife. Maybe you smell and she doesnt like it.

What questions are asked in pre-marital counseling?
"Do you like sex?"
If that question exist in pre-marital counseling questions, are you sure that your fiancee being honest to that question?


It is kinda ironic if we are trapped in sexless marriage and in the same time, marriage is the place to fornicate legally in God's eyes.

Sadly, the true face of your spouse would be completely unmasked AFTER you have been marrying that person for some time.
Yes, you don't know anything at all about "the person" whom you share your bed to.
Marriage for me is like playing Russian Roulette.

 

[Dave-W]

Why is it good not to touch a woman?

Paul knew both sides of the equation.

As a pharisee in the school of Hillel (his mentor Gamaliel was Hillel's grandson) he would have been REQUIRED to be married to a daughter from a graduate of the OTHER (Shammai) school of pharisees.

Whether she left him when he went nuts and started following the Jesus group, or she died in childbirth we do not know; only that by the time he went on the road he was single.

He knew how much work a marriage can be, and how much being a follower of Jesus can be. HIS OPINION was that it was easier being single, but acknowledged along with the Lord that celibacy was a charismatic gift. (like miracles or prophecy) Only a few had it.

 

[PollyJetix]

What questions are asked in pre-marital counseling?
"Do you like sex?"
If that question exist in pre-marital counseling questions, are you sure that your fiancee being honest to that question?


It is kinda ironic if we are trapped in sexless marriage and in the same time, marriage is the place to fornicate legally in God's eyes.

Sadly, the true face of your spouse would be completely unmasked AFTER you have been marrying that person for some time.
Yes, you don't know anything at all about "the person" whom you share your bed to.
Marriage for me is like playing Russian Roulette.

It sounds like you need to see a good marriage counselor.
A woman doesn't dislike sex for no reason.
She needs help finding the reason, and dealing with it.

And you need help to get to know your wife for who she is.
You may be surprised to find out what is really going on in her, below the surface.

 

[Dave-W]

What questions are asked in pre-marital counseling?
"Do you like sex?"
If that question exist in pre-marital counseling questions, are you sure that your fiancee being honest to that question?

If you are a virgin how do you really know?

I knew of one premarital curriculum that asked very specific questions on sexuality, like "If your spouse asked you to perform oral sex on them, would you have a negative reaction to it?" and "How frequently do you touch; and Why?"

 

[Dave-W]

A woman doesn't dislike sex for no reason.

And sometimes her reasons are very legitimate.
As a husband you may need to adopt them as well.

 

[dayhiker]

A wife that doesn't like sex or limits is common, yet often men have not learned how to create intimacy. A good counsellor can figure out what is keeping a woman from liking or enjoying sex and what the man needs to do to create a loving and intimate environment. Those two thing can solve most problems I believe.

 

[Dave-W]

A wife that doesn't like sex or limits is common, yet often men have not learned how to create intimacy. A good counsellor can figure out what is keeping a woman from liking or enjoying sex and what the man needs to do to create a loving and intimate environment. Those two thing can solve most problems I believe.

And why should it be "solved?"

 

[dayhiker]

If the couple is fine the way things are then there is no problem to solve.
Personally, if I was in that situation, it would be a problem and I'd want it solved.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

1 Corinthians 7:1 - Why is it good not to touch a woman?

Is it because (modern) marriage s-cks to men?

I think...we need to understand what Paul meant by the idea about it being "good not to touch a woman."

Obviously, for Paul, the normative relational context for men "touching" women is specifically within the bounds of marriage, such as is seen with the story of Adam and Eve.

So, what would Paul mean by this somewhat euphemistic statement? Only that it is ok if some men decide not to be sexually interactive with women, BUT as Paul adds, godly men also shouldn't be spiritual slouches by becoming sexually promiscuous either; and if men want to gratify their sexual desires (which God has given them), then they need to be married to a woman in order to do so. Otherwise, if they are single, they need to remain chaste and celibate (and by corollary, the same goes for women in relation to men).

 

[com7fy8]

Paul, according to certain translations, says it is good to not touch a woman. This means the way it would be good for a Christian guy who has self control and can benefit from staying single. It is not meant for how someone might take this in a wrong way.

Also, Paul does say it can be good to marry. So . . . even though it can be good for certain guys to not touch a woman, also it can be good to get married.

What if, because of fornication, every man is getting married, but in the end, he traps himself in sexless marriage and in the s-ckiness of marriage AKA "marriage prison"....

This is not what Paul means for men to do. If they have a self control problem, he is saying, then it can be good to get married.

But if we read his other sayings in God's word, we can understand that God expects someone to grow in Jesus and get more and more self control for relating more and more lovingly with his lady. Certainly God does not mean for a man to marry a woman only or mainly so he can use her. That would be lust and not love!!

And it is wise to understand what the good possibility of marriage is, which is possible with God.

In God's love, we become more and more able to sweetly and tenderly share with one another. And we benefit, more and more, by being with each other. So, marriage in God's love is certainly not a prison . . . but it is not a prison because of how God's love is so satisfying and in very intimate and tender sharing > Ephesians 4:31-32.

But there are people who want to do their own selfish things, and so they would consider marriage to be a prison. But God's love does us so much more good, than what our own egos can get for us. This is part of why Jesus says we need to deny ourselves > Luke 9:23.

But in case any of us is of a selfish spirit > no matter what you do or where you go . . . still you will have you; your ego will be your prison.

So it is wise to see the good possibilities which God's word means.