‘Baby in a dumpster.’ A spate of abandoned newborns unsettles Texas.

[ralliann]

I think you are really reaching here. If I get eye surgery because I have glaucoma the same procedure does not suddenly stop being healthcare because I want my eyes to look clear. Healthcare does not suddenly become something else simply because of the reasoning for the request.

A baby does not become something else either. They are not your body part.

 

[Belk]

A baby does not become something else either. They are not your body part.

You are not going to convince me and I am not going to convince you. I see no reason to rehash this argument yet again.

 

[NxNW]

Abortion isn't healthcare, unless the mothers life is at risk.

It's a medical procedure regardless for the reasoning.

You don't kill snall human beings and call it health care.

You seem to misunderstand what a human being is.

What does a naturally occurring incident have to to with the purposeful ending of a human life by another human?

Why is one merely an "incident" and only the second one involves a human being?

 

[rjs330]

It's a medical procedure regardless for the reasoning.

A medical procedure isn't always healthcare. If I want my nose to look a certain way it is not necessarily healthcare because it has nothing to do with my health. I don't see assisted suicide as healthcare either.

You seem to misunderstand what a human being is.

I think the confusion is yours.

Why is one merely an "incident" and only the second one involves a human being?

Seems a bit nit picky over a particular word describing someone getting pregnant. Would have you preferred I throw in the word pregnancy or pregnant in order for you to understand what I was talking about? Would that have helped?

 

[rambot]

What about the arguments I mentioned earlier?

Calling it "healthcare" is misleading because that implies that it's addressing "something abnormally wrong that needs to fixed", when in fact, pregnancy is the natural, expected biological outcome of sex (in fact, it's the direct evolutionary purpose for it). Someone getting pregnant from sex is the indicator that everyth.ing is working properly.

1. What it implies is your baggage.

A woman who wants to complete the pregnancy also receives healthcare before "anything is "wrong".

Healthcare is care related to our health.

 

[rambot]

* Stomps foot on ground*.

Listen. It's not healthcare because the health of the mother just doesn't matter to me and it's important that she is ignored unless she wants the baby.


It's pedantic, childish, and most of all weird to argue an abortion isnt healthcare.

 

[rjs330]

1. What it implies is your baggage.

A woman who wants to complete the pregnancy also receives healthcare before "anything is "wrong".

Healthcare is care related to our health.

The pregnant woman is utilizing the health care to stay healthy during her pregnancy for herself and her baby. Especially since one cannot see rhe baby to know if something is wrong.

Its preventative care. Killing the unborn is neither healthcare when nothing is wrong and it's not preventative care either unless something is wrong that could endanger the mother.

Its only healthcare when there is something terribly wrong.

 

[ralliann]

Listen. It's not healthcare because the health of the mother just doesn't matter to me and it's important that she is ignored unless she wants the baby.

If she does not want the baby, don't keep it.

 

[NxNW]

A medical procedure isn't always healthcare. If I want my nose to look a certain way it is not necessarily healthcare because it has nothing to do with my health. I don't see assisted suicide as healthcare either.

Nobody's taking about cosmetic surgery.

I think the confusion is yours.

No confusion here.

Seems a bit nit picky over a particular word describing someone getting pregnant. Would have you preferred I throw in the word pregnancy or pregnant in order for you to understand what I was talking about? Would that have helped?

Miscarriage does not mean pregnant.

 

[civilwarbuff]

It's a medical procedure regardless for the reasoning.

Healthcare is a philosophy not a medical procedure.

You seem to misunderstand what a human being is.

Maybe you can enlighten all of us?

It's a medical procedure regardless for the reasoning.

You seem to misunderstand what a human being is.

Why is one merely an "incident" and only the second one involves a human being?

Because an 'incident' (miscarriage) does not require outside effort to initiate it; an abortion does.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Healthcare is care related to our health.

And how healthy is an abortion to an unborn child? Last time I checked.....not very.

 

[civilwarbuff]

It's pedantic, childish, and most of all weird to argue an abortion isnt healthcare.

Not for the aborted one....

 

[rambot]

The pregnant woman is utilizing the health care to stay healthy during her pregnancy for herself and her baby. Especially since one cannot see rhe baby to know if something is wrong.

She's getting healthcare because her health is being impacted by a pregnancy and she wants to maintain a certain level of health.

Another prospective mother is getting hralthcarre because her health is getting impacted by something that she does not want to impact her health.

Its preventative care. Killing the unborn is neither healthcare when nothing is wrong and it's not preventative care either unless something is wrong that could endanger the mother.

Listen loudly.

A pregnancy impacts the health of the mother whether stays around or not.

Healthcare is not just about the baby and nothing can be said to remove the mother feom this picture.

A woman is having medical intruments put inside her body to perform a medical procedure you disagree with so you try to change the meaning of the language you speak to twist a sensible understanding.

Its only healthcare when there is something terribly wrong.

Not according to what you literally typed at the start of that very post.
Shall I wait until you decide on what you think health care is instead of a nebulous, self serving definition?

 

[civilwarbuff]

Miscarriage does not mean pregnant.

Uhhh, don't you have to be pregnant in ORDER to miscarry?....just guess'n here.

 

[rambot]

And how healthy is an abortion to an unborn child? Last time I checked.....not very.

Not "healthy"..."related to health".


Pray, how much does a pregnancy have to do with "health"? Does the mother count.

 

[rambot]

Not for the aborted one....

So? It is for the mother.

 

[civilwarbuff]

So? It is for the mother.

How so?

 

[rambot]

How so?

She's having a procedure done that is impacting her health.

 

[ralliann]

She's having a procedure done that is impacting her health.

Not just her health is being impacted.

 

[rjs330]

Another prospective mother is getting hralthcarre because her health is getting impacted by something that she does not want to impact her health.

Nope that mother is killing the life inside of her for convenience sake. Taking another life in that manner or that reason is not healthcare.

pregnancy impacts the health of the mother whether stays around or not.

Yes that's why preventative care is important.

Healthcare is not just about the baby and nothing can be said to remove the mother feom this picture.

Yes the care is for both parties involved.

woman is having medical intruments put inside her body to perform a medical procedure you disagree with so you try to change the meaning of the language you speak to twist a sensible understanding.

Not all medical procedures are healthcare just because it's done by a medical professional. Sometimes it's assault or even homicide.