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  1. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    The parable meaning in a story in the text not only the most important part (by far), but is really the only part that matters (over time, ultimately). If some literalist reads the text and misses the parable meaning -- the meaning of the story about their own life -- then lacking that parable...
  2. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    It's definitely a parable. There are both stories that are purely parable, and also some accounts of events that are also parables. Really every story in the Old Testament is a parable, only in the text because it helps us learn something about human nature and so on. For this story though...
  3. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    That's my whole point! That's what I've been saying for many posts now.
  4. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    Because it's then not even slightly about any evidence.... See? If someone says that Jack dropped a shoe in the yard, but then picked it up....then it would not then allow any conclusion to merely search the yard and not find Jack's shoe. Ergo, that aspect (finding evidence of the Exodus as...
  5. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    Ah, I see the part you've not yet included. Let me say it again another way: The text itself indicates that the things one might normally expect to find for a group traversing the desert so many years (40) would not happen according to the actual text specifics(1)..... Example from the...
  6. Halbhh

    Global warming pushes ocean temperatures off the charts

    Sure, if the sea temperature was just notably higher than usual, then it would be only just another year where a mere ordinary record is set. Yes. But here what stands out is that this one doesn't look like just a warmer year -- say the warmest in modern times of many decades of measuring --...
  7. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    Here I realized I'm unclear what you mean -- do you mean I should have posted about those natural causes (as I fact I did), or instead that I should not have? But perhaps the later makes more sense since I did post about those natural reasons that no human remains would be found. But that...
  8. Halbhh

    Global warming pushes ocean temperatures off the charts

    We do keep learning more ways that warming can increase more than models had accounted for many times now. So that makes me wonder. Example: how well can models include events like: a La Nina or El Nino causes drought in some northern tundra near ice and snow areas further north, then you get...
  9. Halbhh

    Global warming pushes ocean temperatures off the charts

    Here's an update to that chart: For the past year, oceans around the world have been substantially warmer than usual. Last month was the hottest January on record in the world’s oceans, and temperatures have continued to rise since then. ... The heat wave has been especially pronounced in...
  10. Halbhh

    Global warming pushes ocean temperatures off the charts

    Global warming pushes ocean temperatures off the charts: study In 2023, the world's oceans took up an enormous amount of excess heat, enough to "boil away billions of Olympic-sized swimming pools," according to an annual report published Thursday. ... In 2023, the oceans soaked up around 9 to...
  11. Halbhh

    Higher than expected Ocean temperature rise

    Global warming pushes ocean temperatures off the charts: study In 2023, the world's oceans took up an enormous amount of excess heat, enough to "boil away billions of Olympic-sized swimming pools," according to an annual report published Thursday. ... In 2023, the oceans soaked up around 9 to...
  12. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    Did the story in Exodus and Numbers and some in Deuteronomy, etc. happen in the way described in the text concretely? (A large group of semitic people (even if only 100,000 or less) wanders the desert for 40 years) Reading Exodus, Numbers, the text is in many parts just a lengthy string of...
  13. Halbhh

    Higher than expected Ocean temperature rise

    For the past year, oceans around the world have been substantially warmer than usual. Last month was the hottest January on record in the world’s oceans, and temperatures have continued to rise since then. ... The heat wave has been especially pronounced in the North Atlantic...
  14. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    While science is my main interest and I post a lot of real science, here I'm trying to help those that don't realize what this OP topic really is about. Plz try (and I get it you find this topic frustrating) to avoid even indirect ad hominem (and help me if I fail to do that also by pointing it...
  15. Halbhh

    Annihilation=No Wrath

    This might be an enjoyable post. I'm thinking it should be. Suppose you and I had never read one word or heard one sentence in the bible (or just heard a few wonderful sentences like John 3:16).... So, we have no knowledge at all of what is actually said in the Bible. We'd have to guess at a...
  16. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    I see I need to explain my attitude about this thread/topic, which might be rare or hard to imagine. While the OP seems to be about a practical question -- how many people in the group -- but even if the theory of a number closer to 20K or 30K is correct, it's not correct to think the topic...
  17. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    I underlined a bit you might have missed, or perhaps didn't consider fully. We can't make conclusions about this kind of thing (a situation where by the text there ought not be any remains and then we don't find remains) based on a lack of evidence. Ergo, as I said then, " how could anyone...
  18. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    From context here, the OP raised the discussion that that the text itself probably meant there were only a few tens of thousands (though I offered a different link -- how the source text seems likely as not to have meant something closer to tens of thousands instead of hundreds: How many...
  19. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    Well, lol, it would be a very obvious mistake to think that a lack of evidence is a proof of anything. (that made me laugh) I've been in deserts a lot. One doesn't see a lot of bones everywhere. Even though it's dry.... When you are hiking in a semi-arid or desert area, you might only...
  20. Halbhh

    Continuing research into the possibility of the reality of the Exodus, and current data/conclusions.

    Yes -- that's a central aspect of the story in the text -- it's called the "wandering" in the desert. In the story, they are literally lead by a column of divine smoke (and fire at night), and the only day they normally stop for a whole day is only on the Sabbath (where they are literally not...