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The King James Bible being the word of God is not the focus of this thread. The fact that the NIV cannot possibly be the word of God based on thousands of evidences agasint it is the focus. Many want to take this thread into "textual criticism" which basically teaches that no single book is...

In acts they got saved and were added to the church. They counted the number added. They were not members of the church until they were added to the church.

The Bible says be holy, be sober, in all manner of conversation. That covers at baseball games. If you don't want the Bible telling you what is right or wrong, don't blame me.

That's you, not the Bible, talking. I don't follow most Christians, I follow Jesus and He said I'm to deny myself and take up my cross and follow Him, not take up a beer and follow Him.

None of that garbage goes on in my Christian circles. We handle people involved in those things Biblically, Biblical church discipline. Anybody in my church or churches we fellowship with who is seen drinking or drugging or fornicating is probably going to lose their church membership at...

What a weak testimony of the power of God in your life in Christ's resurrection when you have to sit there sipping alcohol claiming you are being like Jesus and if others drink too much and kill people on the highways that's their problem and you can just sit there and have a drink and forget...

show in the Bible where it says "we have freedom in Christ to sip suds and taste wine", and Jesus never got more than ___% drunk, whatever percentage of drunk you think is still sober.

sounds like the only thing you are trying to grasp is some suds and you won't let go for nothing...it's an idol and you are free to hold it as long as you can

Radiator fluid is a delicious drink the same as whatever alcohol you think is delicious. There is nothing nourishing about alcohol, it's poison.....so why not just drink delicious radiator fluid?

Yes, because people want to imbibe and they don't like God telling them to be sober, to be holy

You can drink to that one, amen?

Anybody who says anybody who says having a drink is a sin is a legalist, is a legalist....so while you are calling others legalists, you are in reality being legalistic against them, trying to make rules againt them. Your word is not God's word. God says be holy. If you are not being holy...

Awwww....a young couple at church recently married, finest young couple, perfect citizens from good families, like angels...it appears she is unable to carry a child, several miscarriages. When you influence somebody to become a Christian, you are not barren. God has special rewards for you...

You said Timothy cut his coke with water in the Bible, and Justin Martyr left the orgy to explain to Ceasar that they were not having drunk love fests because the wine wasn't strong enough to get drunk, it only kept them from getting dehydrated and the love feasts were started by Jesus and Mary...

Most posters to this point have been respectful of the OP and kept the discussion focused on the NIV as the thread is intended. I'm again asking all posters to keep the discussion focused on the NIV only, either defending it as a Bible in opposition to the OP or attacking it as a fake Bible as...

This thread is not about all sorts of Bibles, it is about the NIV. Please read the OP again and keep the discussion on topic, thank you.

modern translators are jealous because God chose the translators of the King James Bible to bring His Word to the English speaking world and He did not respect the intellect and education of modern scholars in order to allow them to help Him. I really do feel sorry for modern translators, but...

What is "dogmas" of the church? Is that the dog-mothers? "dog-mas"???? Ma is the Mother, right? so the "dogma" of the church would be the mother dog, right? So the Dog Mother of Catholicism gave birth to God the Mother of God who is not the Father of God and not the Mother of God the Father...

So Mary is the Mother of God on Earth but she is not the Mother of God the Father on Earth, only the Mother of God the Son on Earth? Who is she the mother of now that neither her nor Jesus are on Earth? She is the Mother of God the Son in Heaven now, but not the Mother of God the Father in...

You can be a Christian and be a Catholic if you want to. Constantine said it's good before he went wherever he went. Try reading "The Two Babylons" by Alexander Hyslop. Your priest will love it. I took some semester long classes in College about the teachings and history of Catholicism...