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    Church Fathers & Reformers on Daniels 70 Weeks

    But let's get one thing straight before you begin to explain. This is a prophesy for the Jews, "Thy (Daniel's) people." Dan.9:26, "Unto the end of the war desolations are determined." Note plural, desolations. Matthew wrote about this well after Antiochus. The war against the Jews did not end...
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    Let us not forget!

    Silence is the art of the greatest conversation: For over 1900 years the Jews had lost their nationality. They have known and used every dialect; have mingling with, but never united with other people. They have preserved their distinctive characteristics, customs and race, regardless of what...
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    1 Thess. 4:17 - The sole verse on the rapture in the entire Bible

    Obviously there are some of you who because the following verse concerning the catching away of the church is found but one time in scripture, claim that it hold no water; therefore we should do one of three things, ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist, or tear it out of our Bible. One problems...
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    1 Thess. 4:17 - The sole verse on the rapture in the entire Bible

    Baberean it just dawned on me why you brought up the word descend. I think you'te trying to say the word descend implies that Jesus came down to the earth. No!. Scriptures speak of three heavens. Jesus was in the third heaven sitting at the right hand of the Father. For the church he will...
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    1 Thess. 4:17 - The sole verse on the rapture in the entire Bible

    When the 1599 Geneva Bible was published it was understood that the rapture occurred as the first part of Christ's Second Coming. When the Geneva Bible was published they had no idea the Jews would ever be delivered back into their Land (1948.) This is why the Catholic Church claimed to be...
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    1 Thess. 4:17 - The sole verse on the rapture in the entire Bible

    To descend, those who come down from heaven, as in God affording aid to the oppressed, Acts 7:34, "I am come down to deliver them," quoted from Ex.3:8, where Septuagint for Hebrew, "Come down." Of the Son of Man, sequel, "Out: John 6:38-42, "How is then that He (Jesus) saith, I came down from...
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    1 Thess. 4:17 - The sole verse on the rapture in the entire Bible

    101 wrote. "Well, if it is Paul who has given us the Mystery of the Rapture, then you will not doubt be able to teach me your doctrine on the Rapture by referring back to Paul's writings alone." Phil replies, Hmmmm, "my doctrine!" OK, but honestly, it’s not my doctrine. A good place to begin is...
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    1 Thess. 4:17 - The sole verse on the rapture in the entire Bible

    101, nice post if you were writing a novel, but incorrect if you're speaking of the Scriptures. You are aware that only Paul speaks of the Rapture. We can’t go to Isaiah, Exodus or Daniel and teach the Rapture; neither will you find it in the four gospels or the book of Revelation. Only Paul who...
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    Bear and three ribs:

    Codger wrote, "Good grief - every simple thing here gets blown up into a complicated "Rube Golberg." Bible prophesy is mostly simple. Daniel 7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up it self on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth...
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    Bear and three ribs:

    Tranquil, thanks for your comments. I understand Nebuchadnezzar's image of gold, silver down to the feet of iron and clay represent actual kingdoms, they beginning with Babylon. Nebuchadnezzar was given this dream, and Daniel interpreted it, to this I agree. Daniel was given the vision by God...
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    "No man knows" hmmmm

    Bibletruth469, thanks for not hi-jacking my tread. You wrote, "I believe that these verses, "no one knows the day or the hour" refers to the people who are waiting for the 2nd coming of Christ back to to the earth to set up His kingdom." Phil replies, "Agreed! But in your statement lies the...
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    Bear and three ribs:

    For discussion only: Dan.7:5, “And behold another beast, a second, like a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, and devour much flesh.” I took Dan.7:5 and broke down every Hebrew word in...
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    666 X 3.

    Codger wrote concerning my article, "More Futurist nonsense. I guess the following verse must have been removed from your Scofield Bible... Revelation 13:18 (NIV2011) 18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That...
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    "No man knows" hmmmm

    Parousia, I was talking about the natural church, you know, men, women, flesh, bones, mortals those of us who are born into the world and will one day leave this world one way or another. No Christian in this flesh will ever stand before the Father's throne, not until we have received our...
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    "No man knows" hmmmm

    Job8, My question was based on what Jesus said, “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” So, here's the question again, "is there any N.T. Scripture written after Jesus spoke the above words that states, the Father would never reveal the day...
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    "No man knows" hmmmm

    Parousia, thanks for your comments. I will take some of the the words you highlighted. You wrote, "the coming of the Lord is near," and Jesus is at the door!" When the above was written, Jesus had not gone to the cross. After His resurrection, he sent His Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit was in...
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    "No man knows" hmmmm

    Interplanner, it's only a discussion, I'm sure Scriptures will prove or disprove what I am proposing, and have yet to propose. I am an inquisitive person and have always felt that many things in Scripture are not understood by modern thinkers because many are either closed minded, dogmatic, or...
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    666, 1st beast

    When I took the birth of Jesus, 4 B.C. and subtracted, 666.666 it took us to 670 B.C. the year Manasshe was conceived. He was the king of Judea, the king who had plunged the Jews of Judea into every form of idolatry. What I forgot to mention is this, and maybe it's only a coincidence, than...
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    "No man knows" hmmmm

    2 Thes.2:7, “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:” So we are told that anti-Christianity was already at work in Paul’s day.” In Matt.24:33-34-35, Jesus said, “When ye shall see all these things (all the end time events He spoke of in Matt.24,) know that it (the time) is near, even at...
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    666 X 3.

    I had recently posted a tread concerning Hosea 6:2; see tread. I began with 2 Pet.3:8, “One day with the Lord, as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” I applied this to Hosea 6:2?” Hosea 6:2, reads, “AFTER two days (two thousand years) will He (God) REVIVE = (make alive) US (the...