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    Response to a post on the resurrection of the dead from 1 Cor 15

    Response which was deleted from the eschatology section. Perhaps resurrection of the dead doesn't mean resurrection of the physical body, but resurrection of the 'political' body of those who embodied and "ate" his body {John 6} doctrines, truths & teachings. Earlier in the letter [10:16 &...
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    The prophet like unto Moses but a new covt NOT LIKE the one of moses?!

    This thread us to discuss the apparent (though not actual) conflict of terms of the prophet like unto Moses in Deut 18 with the fact that the new covt was to be NOT LIKE the one made when he tiok them by the hand and led them out of Egypt as stated in Jer 31. How was Jesus a prophet (the new...
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    Eusebius on the new heavens, new earth

    EUSEBIUS Bishop of Caesarea (c. 265 - 340) Extract from the 'Theophania' : "All authorities concur in the declaration that "when all these things should have been done" "The End" should come : that "the mystery of God should be finished as he had declared to His servants the prophets" : it...
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    Deut 32, (and Gen 49:1) as the mother of end time prophecies

    I've been working on a list of questions as a proof to connect Daniels 'time of the end' and 'latter days'; the end of the age in the olivet discourse and the time of Revelation with the 'latter end' and 'end' and judgment upon the conditional/national covenant, it's principles and unbelieving...
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    Rapture responsibility

    On another forum; it was mentioned that a guy was running a business promising to take care of beloved pets when the believers would be raptured. It's really only responsible to do that with your pets. I'm wondering if there are those here who believe in the rapture and that we are in the 'end...
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    "Full" preterism and the apostles creed

    I've been thinking a little about this, that if we (I) embrace the consistent hermeneutic that results in so called "full" preterist views, on the surface it appears to come against parts of what is called the apostles creed. Especially, the part that says "from thence" he shall come to judge...
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    Partial Preteist/ Preterist section of Eschatology

    I'd like to suggest the opening of a Preterist/Partial Preterist section of Eschatology. There are sometimes logical discussions and insights that are cut short that may actually not be 'full preterists' in their scope, but simply inductively exploring all avenues of interpretation and...
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    Pretertist people; Rapture refering to John?

    Dispensationalist and futurists will scoff at this, but as I continue to read and meditate on the new testament (and the old) in light of the historical setting especially concerning the closure of the old covenant and full establishment of the New; new ideas continue to surface. In Acts 1...
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    The word "so" in Romans 11:26

    I'd like to ask for people to give their opinion or definition of the word "so" that occurs in Romans 11:26. Afterwards, I'd like opinions about when the redeemer comes/came to zion and when God took away or takes away 'all' Israels sin in verses 25 and 27..
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    "Literal" interpretation revisited

    For those who are so inclined to consider if and when a literal (word for word) interpretation is to be applied, I found this article to be good reading. It is from Duncan Mckenzie. He discusses what he refers to as the orthodox protestant approach which is based on luthers 'sensus literalis'...
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    Books and courses for a Pretertist leaning bible course

    Most of our bible colleges and many seminaries have been infiltrated or even begun with the dispensational bent and perspective in mind. haveing to buy a Scofield bible as a text book should send up some signals about where the doctrine of the school is coming from. Again, to shed a positive...
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    The covenant established by Jesus in Dan 9:27

    As part of the non-futurists, non dispensational perspective, I think it is important to not only voice the errors of the views, but also present the alternative views for readers to consider. It has been repeatedly said that the covenant described in Dan is a future covenant made with some evil...
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    Isaiah 66 thread

    To not clog up or divert the British Israelism thread. Some have been taught that the nation 'born in a day' of Isaiah 66 refers to Israel of 1948. I think rather it refers to the Christian nation born at one of several possible days; i.e. the crucifiction, pentecost, and/or their escape to...
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    Discussions of the pecking order of Angels/Man/Jesus/God

    Last post in the other thread. Originally Posted by sentipente garry2 There is a lot of diffrence between God and the angels. The angels are only just above man. Where do you get that from? Man was made a little lower than God. Even Jesus was made a little lower than the angels...
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    What should we eat today?

    So by context what way should we eat today .... according to the bible Gen 2:16 eat of any tree or gen 9:3-4 or Lev 11:1-47... law for food or 1 tim 4:3-5 romans 14:20-23 1 cor 8:12
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    Romans 10:19; key to Romans 11;25 part 2

    This idea of Provoking Israel to Jealousy that is found in chapter 10 is repeated twice by Paul in chapter 11. First vs 11, I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall (irrevocably)? God forbid: but [rather] through their fall salvation [is come] unto the Gentiles, for to provoke...
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    Romans 10:19; Key to Romans 11:25

    Keys to a noneschatological understaning of Romans 11. Here are a few thoughts I'm working on to summerize the understanding of Romans 11 that I have come to: Romans 11 as well as all of Pauls letters as well as most of the books must be understood in light of who the letter was written to...
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    Fulfillment of Math 24:14?

    Clement, Bishop of Rome; "But not to dwell upon ancient examples, let us come to the most recent spiritual heroes. Let us take the noble examples furnished in our own generation. Through envy and jealousy, the greatest and most righteous pillars have been persecuted and put to death. Let us set...
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    What does the 'end of the indignation" refer to?

    Dan 8:19And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be. It seems that several times the "time of the end" is refered to in Daniel and is also talking of the 'end of the indignation'. Thus, the question...
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    Davids' fallen tabernacle rebuilt when?

    David's fallen tent rebuilt. 1. Fulfilled during the Acts as emphasized with wording similar to when the disciples said that the pouring out of the spirit at Pentecost was what whas prophesied by Joel? This would also be similar to what Jesus taught about new wine needs new wineskins. 2...