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I remember less the hardware and more the operating system: 1984–1988 — Sinclair Spectrum 48K, Basic interpreter 1988–1992 — Amstrad PC 1512, MS-DOS and GEM (GUI) 1992–1995 — 80486, Windows 3.x 1995–1998 — Pentium I, Windows 95...

Sorry to disappoint anyone who was interested in this debate, but I’m packing in. My spiritual health is at stake. I’ve soaked up enough negative energies here to last me for a lifetime. Goodbye all. Forwarding Address

You form a relationship with Yahweh by accepting His son Jesus as Lord and Saviour. What more do you want? More than that—that Yahweh is the only God and Christianity the one religion—I cannot grant, as I don’t believe it’s true. ??? This seems like a contradiction...

No, I do not deny you your relationship with a truly existent God. The only thing I deny you, and other Christians, is the exclusive truth of your religion. They are not based on my opinion or expectations, but on the testimony of those who have been in the afterlife, whether people living...

Sounds like what the authors of the Bible did. :) Incorrect. I definitely believe in divine standards of judgement, which affect all (including Christians) upon coming into the afterlife. And, because I believe in them, I take the position that the Biblical standards are man-made...

The Divine Command theory of morality is poorly thought out and outright dangerous. First, because it rests upon “might makes right”—the onus of doing something because someone powerful, someone with authority, commanded it. Second, it means any immoral act can be whitened if...

You will see I am right in the end. That’s exactly what I think about the Bible.

Lost in the translation, most probably. In Hebrew the idiom “to shave on someone else’s beard” means to learn from the experiences of others, to let the others do the testing before you try it out yourself. My apology for the misunderstanding.

My expectation that a child should obey wouldn’t be very reasonable. It depends on the child. Some are, some aren’t. But, whatever the case, I’m NOT going to douse the child in petrol and set him alight after he does that. Which is what the Christian God does, multiplied into...

Thousands. Take a gander at his link for a partial sample: http://elephanticity.250x.com/wager.html They are persons as we are, and they control nature (such as Thor making thunder with His hammer Mjölnir) and teach Their worshippers the Divine Mysteries. Yes, They all exist. The...

You’re in the wrong thread, OWR. For one, I believe in much more Gods than you do.

What exactly don’t I get?

I like to shave on other people’s beards first. ;)

So it seems how it should be. But there is nothing that enrages fundamentalist Christians more than the idea that God should be merciful to people after their death, that the fires of hell should ever be extinguished. They want God as cruel as possible.

Then you’re an immoral person. You’re no different than the SS men, or the Islamic 9/11 terrorists. They all blindly obeyed their higher authority. Because it’s the best way to maximise the followers of your religion. And Christians say it’s the pagans who worship...

You claim to be a rationalist, yet you believe that a wafer can become the real flesh and blood of the Creator of the universe. In the GA forum such a belief wouldn’t win you many brownie points from the atheists there (who are THE rationalists, pace eis). Evidence! Bring me evidence...

Now, what did I say previously about a wafer becoming the flesh and blood of the Creator of the universe? ;) No, flower is not one of the elements. Christian hell isn’t just separation, it’s torture, and no-one chooses to be tortured. It places Christianity on the same level...

I’ll keep that in mind each time Christian missionaries witness to us pagans. :priest:

I was a Deist for some time, but I left it for the reasons Thithy stated.

The small amphibians are named after the fire spirits. You sound like an atheist when you say that. Not your elf-like garden gnomes, nor even the bald creatures in Harry Potter. Sylphs: air spirits. Salamanders: fire spirits. Undines: water spirits. Gnomes: earth spirits. I...