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I understand. In fact Protestants don't believe that authority, as per the Bible, was granted to the Catholic Church. Thus it is no surprise to hear Protestant scholars claim that "that council didn't have authority" or "it wasn't decided upon until Trent." Realize that those 73 books decided upon in the late 300s were used at masses for readings over the next one thousand years or so before Protestants came up with their own canon. Before that, in the earliest centuries, there were differences at what was used at mass from region to region. The books of the Bible are the liturgical books of the Catholic Church. The last NT book accepted for the Catholic canon was Revelation. Luther tried to get that and other books removed from the Protestant canon. Also know that that every Bible in Europe during those thousand years was a 73 book Bible. When Protestants produced their own version it was decided that a strong formal statement should be made at Trent. In fact councils are often called because there are challenges to Church teaching that have gained momentum.
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That's one very good reason for believing, or at least a good motivation or support for belief. The Christian faith fills in the gaps giving us both the reason and the grace to believe in a particularly good and loving God, one truly worth believing in, hoping in, and loving-one that not only brought the universe into existence, but makes it worth our existing in...eternally.
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And yet those who accepted them were also the church. The very early churches relied heavily on oral teachings while writings, some inspired and others not, circulated among them, with no church having the complete new testament as later assembled into canon. The councils were simply that same church speaking in unified manner-and that also involved excluding certain previously accepted writings in some cases.
Either way, the new testament certainly didn't float fully formed down from heaven. God used people-to write it-and others to determine the canonicity of those writings
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You can get them with or without to this day. In 1826 the British and Foreign Bible Society made the definitive decision to stop printing and circulating Bibles that included the deuterocanonical books. This resulted in Protestant publishers in both Europe and the United States to remove the books entirely from standard printings.
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