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And I rarely see anyone do it more gracefully. He just expresses gratitude for his life and all it has been. He amazes me.
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85, several forms of cancer, retired Spanish professor. Divorced and remarried.
He seems at such peace with it all. He asked me to officiate his memorial service and we are working on it. he has always been very involved in the community, travelled a lot, belongs to serval groups. Last 5 years have been really tough with spinal surgery aomong other treatment.
He seems at such peace with it all. He asked me to officiate his memorial service and we are working on it. he has always been very involved in the community, travelled a lot, belongs to serval groups. Last 5 years have been really tough with spinal surgery aomong other treatment.
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So how is he an atheist as you mentioned in the thread title?
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I think he might have a faith in the ultimate goodness of reality or something?
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Then it's possible that if people remain saved and can't lose it, it would explain why this "atheist" had peace.
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Leaving the church is not the same as leaving Christ.
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A child walks peacefully in front of oncoming traffic or even a Big Mac truck.
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I am very concerned for both of you. First for the man espousing atheism and then for you as someone called to officiate upon his death yet not being moved to implore him to reconsider the Gospel. I feel it is imperative you speak truth to him and if he won’t listen then to gracefully bow out of the officiating. Or do SOMETHING out of love and respect for the poor wayward soul.
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Good grief, man. He's 85. I'd suggest that he's been around long enough to have come to terms with his beliefs and to expect some appreciation of his final wishes and not have someone implore him to do anything at all. If he's been a good man and there is a mercifull God then he'll be accepted into whatever heaven there might be.
If you want to do something for him then pray for him. Else what? Tell him he's going to burn in hell unless he denies his own beliefs and accepts yours?
What an attitude....
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Well if this person is still alive and has never believed in Jesus for Eternal Life. Then he still can believe in Jesus for God's free gift of Eternal Life and in turn enter into death with Eternal Life living in him and like Jesus states.
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”
Unless he has judged himself unworthy of everlasting life, which very well may be the case and will die in unbelief and await his judgment at the great white throne.
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No, no and no again. You can't decide to believe in something. You can decide to investigate it. And decide to discuss it. And decide to ask people that you trust to tell you about it. And then, if you think that the evidence is sufficiently compelling then you will automatically believe.
You can't take the evidence, have an internal debate and conclude that it is absolutely compelling and decide not to believe it. And you can't reject the evidence yet decide that you will believe it.
And something tells me that in the first instance, if the guy has been around for 8 decades then he'll have heard all the arguments for and against and he will have made his conclusion. And in the second instance, just saying that he'll believe to get the grand prize of Eternal Life! ain't going to convince the guy offering said prize that it's genuine (hint: because He's omniscient).
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prick his conscience maybe. But without the conflict it would create what have you got. Just pray, no witness is going to work. But let Gods blessings speak for themselves.
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Are you going to joint the queue? If pricking his conscience is an option then there'll be representatives of a few religions requesting a word with him.
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