The sixth seal event of Revelation 6

keras · Monday at 3:28 PM

Douggg said:
"So, in the sequence of events of your view, which takes place first - the Psalms 83 attack on Israel, or the Sixth seal event ?"

When Iran attempts to fire a nuke missile to Israel, and orders their proxies to attack as well; THEN the Lord will take action and virtually wipe them all out. Psalms 83:13-18, Ezekiel 7:14
Psalms 83 is a description of the Sixth Seal, the attack on Israel triggers the Lords Day of wrath.

Douggg · Monday at 4:20 PM

keras said:
Psalms 83 is a description of the Sixth Seal, the attack on Israel triggers the Lords Day of wrath.

So the Psalm 83 attack on Israel initiates the Sixth Seal event activities, in your view. And you are placing the Psalms 83 attack and the Sixth Seal event as being before the Christian replacement to the current nation of Israel takes place, correct ?

keras, the Sixth Seal event involves the entire world, not just Israel and a portion of the middle east muslim nations. And the cosmos will be parted.

kjv
Revelation 6:
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

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keras, I think you have things mixed up. The Sixth Seal event will take place at the end of the seven years, not before the seven years begin.

Douggg · Monday at 4:40 PM

@keras

Here is what I am deducing is your list of events so far... (is this list of your view correct or not ?)

1. the Psalms 83 attack on Israel takes place, which initiates the Sixth Seal event.

2. then, as part of the Sixth Seal event, a solar flare-up (Coronal Mass Ejection - CME) will take place and depopulate the middle east, including the current nation of Israel.

3. then, in the aftermath of the depopulation, Christians from around the world will migrate to the land of Israel and build a new Christian majority populated and ruled nation.

4. then the Christian majority will build the next temple and start up temple animal sacrifices again.

5. then, a one world government leader will make/confirm a 7 year peace plan/treaty with the new Christian nation, ensuring the new nation's protection and safety.

keras · Monday at 7:38 PM

Douggg said:
@keras

Here is what I am deducing is your list of events so far... (is this list of your view correct or not ?)

1. the Psalms 83 attack on Israel takes place, which initiates the Sixth Seal event.

2. then, as part of the Sixth Seal event, a solar flare-up (Coronal Mass Ejection - CME) will take place and depopulate the middle east, including the current nation of Israel.

3. then, in the aftermath of the depopulation, Christians from around the world will migrate to the land of Israel and build a new Christian majority populated and ruled nation.

4. then the Christian majority will build the next temple and start up temple animal sacrifices again.

5. then, a one world government leader will make/confirm a 7 year peace plan/treaty with the new Christian nation, ensuring the new nation's protection and safety.

1/ Iran and its proxies will attack the Jewish State of Israel. As they have all vowed to 'wipe Israel off the map' and remove every Jew from the Middle East region.

2/ Then the Lord will instigate a massive explosion of the suns surface; Isaiah 30:26a The flash of this will be 7 times brighter and will cause the moon to reflect as brightly as the sun. It will be directed at the Middle East and will virtually depopulate that entire region. Zephaniah 1:18, +

3/ The Lord will send rain and the Holy Land will quickly regenerate, into a garden land; Ezekiel 36:8, Isaiah 30:23-25, +
We Christian peoples will be the people God always wanted in His Land, but has never yet had.

4/ Ezekiel 40 to 46 describes this fully, We know there will be sacrifices again, as the Anti- Christ stops them. Daniel 9:27 & 11:31

5/ The 7 year peace treaty between the AC and Gods people in the new nation of Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5, will come after the Gog/Magog attack and their destruction. It will; be the destruction of Gog's huge army, that motivates the AC to make this treaty.

keras · Monday at 7:49 PM

Douggg said:
the Sixth Seal event involves the entire world, not just Israel and a portion of the middle east muslim nations. And the cosmos will be parted.

Sure it does, Jeremiah 9:21-22, Zephaniah 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7. But it will especially affect the Middle East - Zephaniah 2:1-7, Hosea 4:3

The earths atmosphere will be pushed aside on the side facing the sun, when this CME strikes. spaceweather.com has diagrams of this effect, This pressure wave is what will cause our thousands of satellites to crash and burn,

Douggg · Tuesday at 1:35 AM

keras said:
The earths atmosphere will be pushed aside on the side facing the sun, when this CME strikes. spaceweather.com has diagrams of this effect, This pressure wave is what will cause our thousands of satellites to crash and burn,

So, you are saying that the satellites are the stars falling to earth ? As part of the Sixth seal event, to happen before the 7 years begin in your view ?

So in Matthew 24:29-30, are more satellites going to fall to the ground ?

Why is Revelation 6:15-17 not referring to the reaction of the wicked men of the earth seeing Jesus in heaven, before the throne of God ? i.e. the sign of the Son of man appearing in heaven in Matthew 24:30a.

Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Matthew 24:
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

keras · Tuesday at 5:22 AM

Douggg said:
you are saying that the satellites are the stars falling to earth ? As part of the Sixth seal event, to happen before the 7 years begin in your view ?

So in Matthew 24:29-30, are more satellites going to fall to the ground ?

After any Coronal Mass Ejection [earth directed] most satellites must be reboosted back to a higher orbit. A big CME will quickly cause them to crash back to earth. Just like ripe figs shaken from the tree!
One effect of this forthcoming CME, will be the loss of the internet, cellphones, GPS positioning and most electronic systems.

When Jesus Returns, I think there will be a meteor shower.

Douggg said:
Why is Revelation 6:15-17 not referring to the reaction of the wicked men of the earth seeing Jesus in heaven, before the throne of God ? i.e. the sign of the Son of man appearing in heaven in Matthew 24:30a.

Because at the Sixth Seal Day of the Lords wrath; He will not be seen, Psalms 18:11, Habakkuk 3:4, Psalms 11:4-6....the Lord stays in His Temple in heaven. Rev 6:15-17 never says people will actually see His face, they ask to not see it.

The sign mentioned in Matthew 24:30a, must be the same as Revelation 19:11. They both describe the glorious Return.

keras · Tuesday at 4:02 PM

An Explanation of the Sixth Seal:

Revelation 6:12-17;
I watched as the Lamb broke the Sixth Seal, – At this moment a Coronal Mass Ejection will explode out from the sun. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 3:8, Jeremiah 23:19 Triggered by an attack onto Israel, as per Psalms 83, Psalms 11:4-6, Psalms 50:1-3, 2 Peter 3:7

There was a violent earthquake – The microwave effect of the short wave spectrum penetrates the earth’s crust, triggering worldwide earthquakes by tectonic plate movement. Haggai 2:6, Deuteronomy 32:22, Isaiah 26:18-20, Amos 8:8-9, Psalms 18:7

The sun turned black as a funeral pall – Acts 2:20 The approaching mass of the CME will obscure the sun. Joel 2:31, Amos 5:20

The moon became a red as blood – Joel 2:31 The superheated hydrogen plasma strikes the moon and causes a thermoluminescent reaction with the metallic oxides of the moon dust. As well as: the bright reflection of the initial flash. Isaiah 30:26a

The stars in the sky fell like ripe figs – All our satellites crash to earth, this is a known effect of the pressure wave of a CME. Isaiah 34:4, Isaiah 28:2

The sky vanished like a scroll being rolled up – Our magnetosphere and atmosphere facing the sun are pushed aside by this multi billion ton pressure wave of superheated hydrogen plasma. Jeremiah 30:23, Isaiah 34:4, 2 Peter 3:7 & 10, Isaiah 51:6

Every mountain and island moved from their place – Tectonic plate movement caused by the microwave effect. Deuteronomy 32:22, Jeremiah 4:23-24, Habakkuk 3:6, Isaiah 13:13 Also may cause a magnetic pole reversal.

Everyone from high to lowly hid themselves – every person on earth will be terrified by what is coming and they scramble for cover. Ezekiel 7:15-19, Zephaniah 1:3 & 11, Luke 21:25-26

They called out: Hide us from the wrath of the Lamb – People will dive for cover and most will survive, as they see this disaster approaching. The main mass of a CME will take 24 - 36 hours to arrive on earth. Isaiah 2:19, Isaiah 28:21-22, Jeremiah 25:38, Luke 23:30

For the great Day of the Lord has come and who can stand? Deuteronomy 32:22, Ezekiel 7:7, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Joel 1:15.

This is the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, prophesied over 100 times throughout the Bible, it is this terrible event that enables the establishment of a One World Government. But those who took heed of the warnings, Isaiah 26:20-21, took shelter and at the same time called to the Lord for protection, Acts 2:21, 1 Peter 1:5, Psalms 68:1-3, Joel 2:32 & 3:16 and will receive the great blessings the Lord has for His faithful Christian people.

Douggg · Tuesday at 6:41 PM

keras said:
After any Coronal Mass Ejection [earth directed] most satellites must be reboosted back to a higher orbit. A big CME will quickly cause them to crash back to earth. Just like ripe figs shaken from the tree!
One effect of this forthcoming CME, will be the loss of the internet, cellphones, GPS positioning and most electronic systems.

When Jesus Returns, I think there will be a meteor shower.

Because at the Sixth Seal Day of the Lords wrath; He will not be seen, Psalms 18:11, Habakkuk 3:4, Psalms 11:4-6....the Lord stays in His Temple in heaven. Rev 6:15-17 never says people will actually see His face, they ask to not see it.

The sign mentioned in Matthew 24:30a, must be the same as Revelation 19:11. They both describe the glorious Return.

keras, it appears that we are far far apart regarding our understanding of eschatological events. So I think we will have to leave it at that.

keras · Tuesday at 8:08 PM

Douggg said:
keras, it appears that we are far far apart regarding our understanding of eschatological events. So I think we will have to leave it at that.

Well; I was enjoying answering your questions.
You know, there is just one way the end times will unfold and that way is what the Prophets have informed us about. To believe something which is not mentioned by the Bible Prophets, is a bad mistake.
The scenario I promote, using all of the Prophetic Word, is a sensible, logical working out to the ultimate goal of Gods Plans for mankind.
He will, - in the end of it all, get for Himself, a people who have freely chosen to be His faithful peoples and His witnesses of Gods Justice to Satan.

I hope and pray that all will hold strongly to their faith thru whatever happens. The Lord is looking for people who trust unreservedly in Him.

tranquil · Wednesday at 11:24 AM

Douggg said:
@keras

Here is what I am deducing is your list of events so far... (is this list of your view correct or not ?)

1. the Psalms 83 attack on Israel takes place, which initiates the Sixth Seal event.

2. then, as part of the Sixth Seal event, a solar flare-up (Coronal Mass Ejection - CME) will take place and depopulate the middle east, including the current nation of Israel.

3. then, in the aftermath of the depopulation, Christians from around the world will migrate to the land of Israel and build a new Christian majority populated and ruled nation.

4. then the Christian majority will build the next temple and start up temple animal sacrifices again.

5. then, a one world government leader will make/confirm a 7 year peace plan/treaty with the new Christian nation, ensuring the new nation's protection and safety.

Luke 21

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

23How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! For there will be great distress upon the land and wrath against this people. 24They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations. And Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

25There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among the nations, bewildered by the roaring of the sea and the surging of the waves. 26Men will faint from fear and anxiety over what is coming upon the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

This is so simple:

The 'locusts' of Joel, of the 5th Trumpet, are the 'armies surrounding Jerusalem' 'causing desolation'. [=Dan 9:26's people of the prince to come destroy the city and sanctuary'.]

In Luke 21:23, the 'great distress and wrath against the people' = Matt 24:21's 'great tribulation'.

15So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand), 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the housetop come down to retrieve anything from his house. 18And let no one in the field return for his cloak.

19How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath. 21For at that time there will be great tribulation, unseen from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again.

The 'great tribulation' is the 'great distress and wrath'. The Trumpets start the 'wrath against people in Judea'.... with the .... locusts, which are the 'armies surrounding Jerusalem'. Who are the armies that surround Jerusalem?

The 7 headed, 10 horned beast which is comprised of:

There are 10 horns in Psalm 83:6-8

Edom, Ishmaelites, Moab, Hagrites, Gebal, Ammon, Amalek, Philistia, Tyre, Assyria.
10 horns also symbolically represents unfaithful Israel, ie 10 tribes of Israel.
7 heads refers to the seven headed beasts of Daniel 7: lion, bear, 4 headed Leopard, 1 headed 4th Beast with 10 horns
7 heads also refers to Gog: Meshach, Tubal, Perisa, Cush, Put, Gomer, and Beth-togarmah

Ezek 38:2“Son of man, set your face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him 3and say, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 4And I will turn you about and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed in full armor, a great host, all of them with buckler and shield, wielding swords. 5Persia, Cush, and Put are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6Gomer and all his hordes; Beth-togarmah from the uttermost parts of the north with all his hordes—many peoples are with you.

When these armies (seem to be) / are destroyed (in Revelation 9:13-21), then the Daniel 7 little horn (the Dan 7 4th Beast) confirms the covenant of Daniel 9:27. (He is the 'mighty angel' of Rev 10.) The Dan 7 Little Horn has control over the saints for a 'time, times, half time' (Dan 7:25). This is the 1260 days of the 2 witnesses occurring before the 7th Trumpet (during the 2nd phase of the 6th Trumpet).

tranquil · Wednesday at 11:57 AM

tranquil said:
Luke 21

20But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that her desolation is near. 21Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country stay out of the city. 22For these are the days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written.

23How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! For there will be great distress upon the land and wrath against this people. 24They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations. And Jerusalem will be trodden down by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

25There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among the nations, bewildered by the roaring of the sea and the surging of the waves. 26Men will faint from fear and anxiety over what is coming upon the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

This is so simple:

The 'locusts' of Joel, of the 5th Trumpet, are the 'armies surrounding Jerusalem' 'causing desolation'. [=Dan 9:26's people of the prince to come destroy the city and sanctuary'.]

In Luke 21:23, the 'great distress and wrath against the people' = Matt 24:21's 'great tribulation'.

15So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand), 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the housetop come down to retrieve anything from his house. 18And let no one in the field return for his cloak.
19How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath. 21For at that time there will be great tribulation, unseen from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again.

The 'great tribulation' is the 'great distress and wrath'. The Trumpets start the 'wrath against people in Judea'.... with the .... locusts, which are the 'armies surrounding Jerusalem'. Who are the armies that surround Jerusalem?

The 7 headed, 10 horned beast which is comprised of:

There are 10 horns in Psalm 83:6-8

Edom, Ishmaelites, Moab, Hagrites, Gebal, Ammon, Amalek, Philistia, Tyre, Assyria.

10 horns also symbolically represents unfaithful Israel, ie 10 tribes of Israel.

7 heads refers to the seven headed beasts of Daniel 7: lion, bear, 4 headed Leopard, 1 headed 4th Beast with 10 horns

7 heads also refers to Gog: Meshach, Tubal, Perisa, Cush, Put, Gomer, and Beth-togarmah

Ezek 38:2“Son of man, set your face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him 3and say, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 4And I will turn you about and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed in full armor, a great host, all of them with buckler and shield, wielding swords. 5Persia, Cush, and Put are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6Gomer and all his hordes; Beth-togarmah from the uttermost parts of the north with all his hordes—many peoples are with you.

When these armies (seem to be) / are destroyed (in Revelation 9:13-21), then the Daniel 7 little horn (the Dan 7 4th Beast) confirms the covenant of Daniel 9:27. (He is the 'mighty angel' of Rev 10.) The Dan 7 Little Horn has control over the saints for a 'time, times, half time' (Dan 7:25). This is the 1260 days of the 2 witnesses occurring before the 7th Trumpet (during the 2nd phase of the 6th Trumpet).

Now, to translate this post into your interpretation of what Keras posted:

1. the Psalms 83 attack on Israel takes place, which initiates the Sixth Seal event.

2. then, as part of the Sixth Seal event, a solar flare-up (Coronal Mass Ejection - CME) will take place and depopulate the middle east, including the current nation of Israel.

3. then, in the aftermath of the depopulation, Christians from around the world will migrate to the land of Israel and build a new Christian majority populated and ruled nation.

4. then the Christian majority will build the next temple and start up temple animal sacrifices again.

5. then, a one world government leader will make/confirm a 7 year peace plan/treaty with the new Christian nation, ensuring the new nation's protection and safety.

The 6th Seal is just announcing the approach of the 7 headed, 10 horned army. When it arrives (at the start of the Trumpets), it will bring 'great distress and wrath' (Luke 21:23) or in other words, it will bring 'great tribulation' (Matt 24:21).

1. The 'army that surrounds Jerusalem and brings desolation' (Luke 21:20) is part of this Psalm 83 ten horn coalition, that is also part of Gog's 7 nation army. This is the 1st woe, the 5 months of locusts (which the Bible calls armies in multiple places.)

2. I don't see a CME occurring here. Literally nothing like that is indicated.

3. In the aftermath of a third of the world dying (in Rev 9:13-21), if Christians do migrate to Israel/ Jerusalem, they would be part of being controlled by the Daniel 7 Little Horn (who has control of Christians for a time, times, half time (Dan 7:25) (the 1st half of the Dan 9:27 covenant). (Keras is very wrong in his insistence that Beulah begins before the 7th Trumpet.) When Keras says that Christians will be living in the holy land at this time, this is part of the temple being 'trampled by Gentiles' in Revelation 11. In a way, this is prophecy in a nutshell: one man's positive fulfillment of prophecy is another man's false fulfillment. "We are in the millenial kingdom!" .... "No, you are trampling the holy city and temple." Keras' 'Beulah' is the false millenial kingdom.

4. the 'Branch' will build the temple (Zechariah 6:12). This same 'branch' will take over Edom, Ammon, and Moab (Isa 11:1-14) which are 3 horns of the Psalm 83 ten horn coalition. The Daniel 7 Little Horn takes over 3 horns in Daniel 7:20. These 3 horns will be Edom, Ammon, and Moab. Keras is correct that the 'branch' will build Ezekiel's temple. That is the temple with the animal sacrifices. At the 7th Trumpet, the Daniel 7 little horn will call himself God. The king of Babylon in Isaiah 14 ('Lucifer') is the 'wicked Branch' in Isaiah 14:19. This wicked branch builds the temple that will be defiled.

5. There is no such thing as a one-world government. The 4th kingdom of Daniel 2 is divided. All kingdoms will be divided amongst themselves. Even the Beast from the sea is divided against the Beast from the earth.

Douggg · Wednesday at 12:44 PM

tranquil said:
The 'locusts' of Joel, of the 5th Trumpet, are the 'armies surrounding Jerusalem' 'causing desolation'. [=Dan 9:26's people of the prince to come destroy the city and sanctuary'.]

The locust of the 5th Trumpet are not armies, but insect type creatures, whose sting will cause severe pain. They will have tails like scorpions.

Revelation 9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

tranquil · Wednesday at 2:59 PM

'Locusts' are armies. How many times do I have to post this?

Judges 6:5

For the Midianites came with their livestock and their tents like a great swarm of locusts. They and their camels were innumerable, and they entered the land to ravage it.

Joel 2

3Before them a fire devours, and behind them a flame scorches. The land before them is like the Garden of Eden, but behind them, it is like a desert wasteland— surely nothing will escape them. 4Their appearance is like that of horses, and they gallop like swift steeds. 5With a sound like that of chariots they bound over the mountaintops, like the crackling of fire consuming stubble, like a mighty army deployed for battle.

19And the LORD answered His people: “Behold, I will send you grain, new wine, and oil, and by them you will be satisfied. I will never again make you a reproach among the nations. 20The northern army I will drive away from you, banishing it to a barren and desolate land, its front ranks into the Eastern Sea, and its rear guard into the Western Sea. And its stench will rise; its foul odor will ascend. For He has done great things.

Also, Deuteronomy 28:42-52.

Don't you know who the 'northern army' of Joel 2:20 is?

keras · Wednesday at 3:26 PM

Hopeless confusion here; between the Sixth Seal, the G.M attack and the events of The Great Tribulation.
They are all separate things, to happen in the order as listed.

Douggg · Wednesday at 4:08 PM

tranquil said:
'Locusts' are armies. How many times do I have to post this?

Armies can be compared to locust.

But in Revelation 9, the locust are not compared to armies.

Revelation 9:
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

The locust insect like creatures are going to torment men with their very painful scorpion like stings for five months.

Douggg · Wednesday at 4:20 PM

keras said:
Hopeless confusion here; between the Sixth Seal, the G.M attack and the events of The Great Tribulation.
They are all separate things, to happen in the order as listed.

No, Gog/Magog, then the 7 years begin, with the Sixth Seal event being near the very end.

Douggg · Wednesday at 4:56 PM

keras said:
Hopeless confusion here; between the Sixth Seal, the G.M attack and the events of The Great Tribulation.
They are all separate things, to happen in the order as listed.

Regarding the Sixth Seal event, in these verses where does it say anything about a solar flare, or CME, or the solar flare/CME depopulating the middle east ?

kjv

Revelation 6:
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

keras · Thursday at 4:04 PM

Douggg said:
Regarding the Sixth Seal event, in these verses where does it say anything about a solar flare, or CME, or the solar flare/CME depopulating the middle east ?

The Sixth Seal is the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath.
There are more than 100 Prophesies throughout the Bible, which describe that terrible Day, Most of them mention fire and extreme heat.

Prophesies like Isaiah 66:15-17, Zephaniah 3:8, Psalms 11:6, 2 Peter 3:7, +, are all descriptions of the Sixth Seal. When otherwise?

Apart from the fact that your 'charts' are a confused mixup, you don't have any actual start point for the end times. Something dramatic must happen in order for a leader to gain control and to demand worship of himself. Revelation 13.
In verse1, we see he comes out of the sea, which means out of the nations. Revelation 17:15 How do you think he can take power and control of America, or of any nation, without the disablement of the existing Governments?

Douggg · Thursday at 5:39 PM

keras said:
The Sixth Seal is the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath.
There are more than 100 Prophesies throughout the Bible, which describe that terrible Day, Most of them mention fire and extreme heat.

Prophesies like Isaiah 66:15-17, Zephaniah 3:8, Psalms 11:6, 2 Peter 3:7, +, are all descriptions of the Sixth Seal. When otherwise?

So your answer is "no" there is nothing in Revelation 6:12-17 that speaks of a solar flare/CME event.

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