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Religiosity as an advantageous trait

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Regardless of what?

Regardless of the fact that it is blasphemy?

Regardless of the fact that it grieves and quenches the Holy Spirit?

Regardless of the fact that it may lead one to commit the unpardonable sin?
How does the advice about getting the most out of this life do what you're suggesting, etc?
 
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Why? The advice stands whether there is an afterlife or not.

???

Are you backtracking now?

I hope so!

Make the most of your time here.

Including giving advice like you gave your grandson?

Should someone make tracts to that effect and give them out?

Learn by your mistakes. Treat others as you would wish to be treated. Live your life well. It will be the only one that you get. You don't get a second chance to live it.

Then what?

Heaven only knows ...

Wow.

The irony of that statement.
 
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But that's not what Bradskii means by his more concentrated, central assertions. Keep that in mind.

According to the Bible, Bradskii, et alii, are ...

1Co 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
 
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No, I'm just tired of mouths that keep talking in this world don't actually have the substance or grounding that their assertions insist they do.
I really couldn't care less what you think about my beliefs. I could care even less about yours. But all my points still stand and you haven't done a single thing to contradict them. Here, I'll actually give you a hand at this point. Make it easy for you. These are the main points:

1. An afterlife changes none of the following.
2. You don't get a second chance to live a worthwhile life.
3. It is therefore a really good idea to make the best of this one.
4. Treat others as you would wish to be treated.
5. Do your best to limit your mistakes.
6. Learn from those that you do make.
7. Make each day count.
8. Because...this is not a dress rehearsal.

Rebut any of them. I'll wait here while you think about it.
 
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According to the Bible, Bradskii, et alii, are ...

1Co 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

1 Corinthians 15:17 - 21
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
 
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That's fine. I didn't show up and spout off to Bradskii because I wanted you to hear anything my educated mind has to say anyway.

Just remember this when you think I "don't know" something: just because you can discern that @AV1611VET offers a mix of good and bad statements doesn't mean by default that you know how to argue your way out of paper bag........................

My diplomas tell me that I probably do know how something in that regard. And I don't care if you value that or not, because they're going to continue to sit on my shelf whether you care or not.
 
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I said it stood whether there is an afterlife or not.

This is what you said:

I think my position is summed up by the advice I have already given to my grandson. That there are no pearly gates or 72 virgins waiting for you. There is no reincarnation. All religions have an afterlife because it's human nature to try to avoid oblivion (and some will think themselves superior if they believe they can). It scares a lot of people. But you don't get a second chance to live a worthwhile life. So make the best of this one, treat others as you would wish to be treated, do your best to limit your mistakes and learn from those you make.

Make each day count, because this is not a dress rehearsal.

I don't see the word "if" in there.
 
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That's fine. I didn't show up and spout off to Bradskii because I wanted you to hear anything my educated mind has to say anyway.

Just remember this when you think I "don't know" something: just because you can discern that @AV1611VET offers a mix of good and bad statements doesn't mean by default that you know how to argue your way out of paper bag........................

My diplomas tell me that I probably do know how something in that regard. And I don't care if you value that or not, because they're going to continue to sit on my shelf whether you care or not.

Oh I couldn't care less, to be honest. Bradskii offered good and simple advice about that the here and now matters because we're in the here and now, and I agree with that wholeheartedly.

You took umbrage with that for no discernible sensible reason other than to argue, and that's entirely your own thing.
 
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According to the Bible, Bradskii, et alii, are ...

1Co 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

Yep! That's definitely part of the epistemological and ontological quagmire we all have to swim through. And on that note, I very much follow the contours of Paul's thought.
 
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From a mere Christian perspective, sure! If religiosity is a state of being religious, that can refer to any religion. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Bahai, and on and on.

(stating that as a faithful Christian)
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Not sure of the point of your post in addressing what I wrote. So I will not comment further on what you wrote.
 
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AV, how is it that you can take the advice of "this is the only life we have, make the most of it" leads Bradski's grandson to committing another Columbine? How warped is your mind that the fact that we only live the one life on this Earth (since Christianity does not talk about reincarnation) is all we have and thus what we do here and now matters?

He is appending the Golden Rule to advice that is both blasphemous and potentially unpardonable.
 
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If that's an insult... man, I wish this website let us be more loose with profanity because I have some doozies in mind.

Just come back with ... "Independent Fundamental Baptist."

I can handle it.
 
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He is appending the Golden Rule to advice that is both blasphemous and potentially unpardonable.

The massive and unequivocal irony of you to blame anyone of appending anything to the Bible is staggering and laughable.
 
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Oh I couldn't care less, to be honest. Bradskii offered good and simple advice about that the here and now matters because we're in the here and now, and I agree with that wholeheartedly.

You took umbrage with that for no discernible sensible reason other than to argue, and that's entirely your own thing.

I'm not going to make the mistake he's making with his grandson by encouraging his grandson to think that a life lived well...............mmmm, maybe, could be, might be......... lived well without Jesus Christ as a central fixture of one's personal philosophy and outlook of life.

Yeah. And neither should you.

Here's the overall thing: if I can hear syllables fall from both your and Bradskii's mouths about 'how life should be lived and what makes it valuable, good and right," and it doesn't sound like anything much different than what someone like, say, Hugh Hefner or Bertrand Russell would have said, I don't think there's much by which to see that you and he have anything 'superior' to what Jesus Christ would insist we all believe and do in our lives.
 
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