NOAA releases 20th Annual "Arctic Report Card". The last 10 years have been the hottest 10 years on record

Perpetual Student · Friday at 7:37 AM

Servus said:
All of the buffalo plus all of the cattle. Not to mention all of the horses.

Only ruminants ferment their food, and (depending on what bacteria they have in their guts) I am not sure if all produce methane.
But any way, cattle outnumbers all mammal wildlife by far.

Those three little squares in the right lower corner are all mammal wildlife.
So including all wild boars, bears, horses, all feline, all wild ruminants, all rodents, all primates etc.

Servus · Friday at 7:54 AM

Websites don't define reality.

RocksInMyHead · Friday at 8:35 AM

rjs330 said:
Remember all the buffalo? Covering the plains with poop and farts.

What do you think the peak population of American Bison was? Without looking it up.

RocksInMyHead · Friday at 8:37 AM

Servus said:
All of the buffalo plus all of the cattle. Not to mention all of the horses.

Cattle and horses, being domesticated animals, are not relevant to the discussion of the potential climatological contributions of wildlife.

durangodawood · Friday at 8:55 AM

rjs330 said:
.....Someday we will all die, but it wont be from climate change.....

Many people will die, suffer, and become impoverished by various effects of climate change. Generally, the warming direction is not a good one for the huge majority of humans and the conditions they need to be happy and healthy.

Servus · Friday at 9:41 AM

Climate change science has been set up in such a way that every scientist knows they're going to get tarred feathered if they dare to challenge it.

Pommer · Friday at 9:43 AM

Servus said:
Climate change science has been set up in such a way that every scientist knows they're going to get tarred feathered if they dare to challenge it.

There’s always been crackpots.
Occasionally one turns out to be correct.

RocksInMyHead · Friday at 9:44 AM

Servus said:
Climate change science has been set up in such a way that every scientist knows they're going to get tarred feathered if they dare to challenge it.

Challenging the status quo in anything will get you tarred and feathered. The thing with science is that, if you can show evidence for your claims and devise repeatable experiments to test them, eventually the consensus tends to come around.

rjs330 · Friday at 9:52 AM

This scientist talks about the fake Climate Science which is not real science. It does not follow scientific laws, it fudges data, it covers up or stifled all contradictory evidence and in fact the scientific principles are ignored. He shows how the scientific laws are not used and how when you apply the actual formulas, and laws to the claims of AGW, AGW does not work. He's not just a guy, but a real Atmospheric Scientist and has been one for a long time. AGW is false. That doesn't mean there is no climate change. It just means it is a natural occurrence.

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Servus · Friday at 9:55 AM

With the exception of a few lone wolves scientists don't dare challenge it if they want to maintain their careers. The few who do are automatically branded as crackpots.

rjs330 · Friday at 10:00 AM

durangodawood said:
Many people will die, suffer, and become impoverished by various effects of climate change. Generally, the warming direction is not a good one for the huge majority of humans and the conditions they need to be happy and healthy.

People have died throughout history due to various things. Including changes in climate. We won't all die becauae of climate change. Climate change may cause a bunch of problems, I have never denied that. But it won't destroy this planet.

That's why I have continually said, instead of sending all this money to climate scientists we should be spending it on research regarding how we arw going to adapt and mitigate this natural phenomenon to reduce the affects it will have on us.

durangodawood · Friday at 10:03 AM

rjs330 said:
People have died throughout history due to various things. Including changes in climate. We won't all die becauae of climate change. Climate change may cause a bunch of problems, I have never denied that. But it won't destroy this planet.

That's why I have continually said, instead of sending all this money to climate scientists we should be spending it on research regarding how we arw going to adapt and mitigate this natural phenomenon to reduce the affects it will have on us.

Pretty much no one says "we're all going to die" from this. Or "the planet itself will end".

So why even mention it? Whats your purpose in doing that?

Servus · Friday at 10:08 AM

rjs330 said:
People have died throughout history due to various things. Including changes in climate. We won't all die becauae of climate change. Climate change may cause a bunch of problems, I have never denied that. But it won't destroy this planet.

That's why I have continually said, instead of sending all this money to climate scientists we should be spending it on research regarding how we arw going to adapt and mitigate this natural phenomenon to reduce the affects it will have on us.

People have thrived in hot dry barren climates for thousands of years.

Perpetual Student · Friday at 12:25 PM

Servus said:
Websites don't define reality.

Indeed. But some websites give a very accurate description of it.

durangodawood · Friday at 1:12 PM

Servus said:
People have thrived in hot dry barren climates for thousands of years.

Just ask Luke's uncle on Tatooine. Moisture farming has worked out alright for them.

sjastro · Friday at 1:26 PM

rjs330 said:
This scientist talks about the fake Climate Science which is not real science. It does not follow scientific laws, it fudges data, it covers up or stifled all contradictory evidence and in fact the scientific principles are ignored. He shows how the scientific laws are not used and how when you apply the actual formulas, and laws to the claims of AGW, AGW does not work. He's not just a guy, but a real Atmospheric Scientist and has been one for a long time. AGW is false. That doesn't mean there is no climate change. It just means it is a natural occurrence.

<iframe width="640" height="400" allowtransparency="true" src="Murry Salby: What is Really Behind the Increase of Atmospheric CO2" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen scrolling="no"></iframe>

I assumed you watched the video where Salby provided the evidence for his assertions that scientific laws are not followed, data is fudged, contradictory evidence is ignored etc....
Go back to the video and provide us with the timestamps where he backs up these assertions.

If AGW is a natural occurrence explain how troposphere warming is out of phase with lower stratospheric cooling which has been discussed in detail in this thread.
Can Salby explain this, in fact can any credentialed scientist explain this as being a 'natural occurrence'?

Servus · Friday at 9:26 PM

durangodawood said:
Just ask Luke's uncle on Tatooine. Moisture farming has worked out alright for them.

"Tatooine" was actually Tunisia which has a population of over 12 million people.

rjs330 · Saturday at 10:16 PM

sjastro said:
I assumed you watched the video where Salby provided the evidence for his assertions that scientific laws are not followed, data is fudged, contradictory evidence is ignored etc....
Go back to the video and provide us with the timestamps where he backs up these assertions.

If AGW is a natural occurrence explain how troposphere warming is out of phase with lower stratospheric cooling which has been discussed in detail in this thread.
Can Salby explain this, in fact can any credentialed scientist explain this as being a 'natural occurrence'?

Yes I watched the entire video. And no I am not going to do all the time stamps. Its probably best if you just watch it yourself.

durangodawood · Sunday at 9:02 AM

Servus said:
"Tatooine" was actually Tunisia which has a population of over 12 million people.

Tunisia is massively not food self sufficient.

Servus · Sunday at 10:33 AM

durangodawood said:
Tunisia is massively not food self sufficient.

That's the point of what I was saying.

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