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Advantages of the Modern Critical Text of New Testament.

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No evidence? There is so much evidence that most Biblical scholars disagree with you. You've made the same mistake in logic. Because something has been copied more times does not make it true. The text from times BEFORE the "for Thine is the kingdom . . " was first included in the Byzantine Greek Biblical body text do not contain that doxology in the body of the text. Nor did Jerome, who did have access to older Greek texts, make the mistake. The KJV translators unfortunately only had access to the later Byzantine Greek texts. The modern-day scholars who gave us the Protestant NASB 2020 Bible and the ESV and the NIB omit that doxology from the Biblical text (they may footnote it). The claim that they gave us those verstions of the Bible based on "no evidence" is quite a criticism of their scholarship.
The fact that so many early century Bibles were undoubtedly written on payprus was more a reflection of the times, not becaus they were not true. It wasn't until the 300s that the Roman empire decided velum for scriptural products, and the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus survive from that time because velum was used. Again, before your Byzantine Greek texts.
The number of copies, from many time periods and many geographical areas, shows that the latter part of Matt. 6:13 was commonplace in accepted Scripture. If some "well-meaning" scribe had added it to the text (although a genuinely well-meaning scribe would NEVER deliberately add to, subtract from or alter anything in the text), then there might be a few copies, from one time period and one area; but the reading would not be widespread, since it would be recognised as spurious.

The NASB, ESV, NIV, etc. are all based on the "Critical Text" (in the N.T.), which is, in turn, based on the readings from only a handful of Greek manuscripts (and ones that disagree with each other an inordinate number of times, never mind how often they disagree with the majority). This is because of man-made theories about textual criticism that arose from German Higher Criticism. They do not come from faith in verbal inspiration of the Bible.

The majority readings represent those readings that have been accepted by Bible believers, down through the ages, in the vast majority of cases.
 
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