The Fig Tree Breaks into Leaf

MForbes said:

You've got a serious lack of congruence. For some reason you did listen to me and heard what I said. Otherwise, you wouldn't have responded to my posts.

'nuff said.

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LOL. I read what you said, but I'm asking why I should care about anything you have to say. Tell me why you're here again when you think this is all just a waste of time? How interesting that you purposely choose to just waste your time here.

Spiritual Jew said:

LOL. I read what you said, but I'm asking why I should care about anything you have to say. Tell me why you're here again when you think this is all just a waste of time? How interesting that you purposely choose to just waste your time here.

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For a member who doesn't care about anything I say, you sure seem interested in responding to me.

MForbes said:

For a member who doesn't care about anything I say, you sure seem interested in responding to me.

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LOL. You are the one who says you think all of this is pointless, not me. But, keep the laughs coming if you insist.

I think the teaching of the fig tree breaking into leaf showing the changing of the seasons is telling us that rather than there being specific times or how the events will take place this is to be understood as a season or period of time. A change in awareness perhaps.

I think we are closer than we were 100 years ago. I think we have crossed a threshold where we are much more aware of just about everything. Philosophers say we are in a postmodernist era where everything is relative. Yet we fight like theres a truth to morality and reality.

Theres definitely a conflict between the Gods and no Gods or different gods. Between ideological beliefs about who we are and how the world should be ordered. Who is the god of this world.

It seems strange that we have rapidly got to this point in the culture war. Except it seems its not just one nation but a worldwide thing. The internet and social media has made the world smaller.

So definitly theres been a change in the weather. I am skeptical of the bold prophesies and claims about specifics. or even making a big political statement about the end times. This is something that I think requires patience and quietness. Looking and listening and being more concerned about taking the opportunity to spread the gospel.

If this is the beginnings of the end times, which may be a long way off as far as fullfilling all that needs to be fullfilled. Remembering Gods timing is not our timing. Then this will be a time when Gods spirit is coming and a time ripe for the gospel in a world with no answers or hope.

stevevw said:

I think the teaching of the fig tree breaking into leaf showing the changing of the seasons is telling us that rather than there being specific times or how the events will take place this is to be understood as a season or period of time. A change in awareness perhaps.

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Hi steve,

Regarding the parable of the fig tree, it is important to understand what the fig tree represents. And also the length of a generation. Because that generation will not pass away without seeing Jesus's return and everything that precedes His return.

The fig tree represents Jerusalem. And in 1967 when the Jews regained control of the fig tree, the leaves began to turn green. So 1967 plus 70 years for a generation (Psalms 90:10) = 2037.

So Jesus's return to this earth will be not later than the end of 2037

Here is a chart I made of the parable of the fig tree generation.

Douggg said:

Hi steve,

Regarding the parable of the fig tree, it is important to understand what the fig tree represents. And also the length of a generation. Because that generation will not pass away without seeing Jesus's return and everything that precedes His return.

The fig tree represents Jerusalem. And in 1967 when the Jews regained control of the fig tree, the leaves began to turn green. So 1967 plus 70 years for a generation (Psalms 90:10) = 2037.

So Jesus's return to this earth will be not later than the end of 2037

Here is a chart I made of the parable of the fig tree generation.

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Does that mean all the events prophesied such Christian persecution, the anti Christ and the the great signs that fool people, the 7 year peace deal, the Temple being rebuilt and sacrifices being re-established, the "abomination of desolation" where the anti Christ declared to be God, the rising of the beat and the one world system and the mark of the beast, ect ect.

Do you think most of this has already happened. Or is happening right now and will soon become more obvious and controlling ?

I mean all the conditions are certainly there for it to happen. But if the 7 year peace deal is to happen before 2037 then we only have less than 4 years for a peace deal to be made.

I think we are at a point where there is manouvering towards some sort of forced peace deal with Iran who is the head of all the terror being committed against Isreal. Several arab nations are now willing to sign such a peace deal. Its just a matter for Iran and other actors to agree.

keras said:

Thank you, stevevw, a good post from a thinking person.
To me. the end times events are very close and I believe I will be alive to see Jesus Return.
As God did say He has told His servants what must happen, it is beholden on us to study the Prophetic Word, being careful to not read into them ideas and theories that do not have scriptural proofs.

We have a world situation now, of a very volatile Middle East, with Iran's Mullahs desperate to keep their power. Jeremiah 49:35 tells us Elam [Iran today] has a main weapon of their might. They will attempt to use it. THEN wham, the Lord will destroy them all. Ezekiel 7:14, 1 Thess 5:3
It will be the Sixth Seal event, commencing all the end time Prophesies. I have a thread on that, on the Controversial Christian Forum.

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Yes I agree. The world situation is volatile and its getting to a point where its either a peace deal or all out war on Iran and its proxies. I think this would be a forced peace and not a real peace. Many even in the west are against the west so they would not be on the side of the west who may initiate the peace deal. They may still try to sabotage any efforts.

As far as the other signs I cannot see anything thing that is different to what has already been happening for millenia. Like earthquakes and povery. In fact in some ways poverty has decreased in some parts.

Though there seems to be a new kind of poverty within in the west with a small number of rich and a groing number of people finding it hard to have a standard of life that previous generations had. Such as housing being too expensive and many more people on welfare under the welfare State.

I was sort of expecting some major earthquakes unlike we have seen before that rock the world. I know we have always had wars and rumours of wars and it seems now more than ever we have rumours of big wars the the age of nuclear weapons. That seems to be what the Iran situation is all about. It is the fear and narrative of wars that is causing many to go mad with worry.

What about the bible verse that says we should run for the hills and not turn back to get anything. Is this yet to happen. Is this literal. That perhaps Christians may have to gather in some remote place under Gods protection like he did for the Isrealites.

Some say the one world system is more or less already in place and it may take some big disaster like another Covid or GFC to set it in motion. The combination of resource control and security relating to terror and illegal activity may trigger a security system that can monitor and control people to regulate food and terror.

It does seem many things are close to fitting this time as the beginning of the end times more than in other times which may have had one or two alignments. Or was not yet fully played out that it was closer to happening moreso than before.