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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Trump's Easter message.
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Yes, for the forth time.
Apparently seeing that ad is supposed to make me soil my pants or something. But so far I just see an ad for medallions.
Here, I'll try again:
UFC Freedom 250
Crafting American Legacy: Official President Donald J. Trump Gold and Silver Medallions. Minted in America.
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Maybe this time.
UFC Freedom 250
Crafting American Legacy: Official President Donald J. Trump Gold and Silver Medallions. Minted in America.
realtrumpcoins.com
Maybe this time
UFC Freedom 250
Crafting American Legacy: Official President Donald J. Trump Gold and Silver Medallions. Minted in America.
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I guess that the President can’t help but hawk merch, while he’s also serving our fair land.Yes, for the forth time.
Apparently seeing that ad is supposed to make me soil my pants or something. But so far I just see an ad for medallions.
Here, I'll try again:
Nope.UFC Freedom 250
Crafting American Legacy: Official President Donald J. Trump Gold and Silver Medallions. Minted in America.
Maybe this time.
Nope.UFC Freedom 250
Crafting American Legacy: Official President Donald J. Trump Gold and Silver Medallions. Minted in America.
Maybe this time
Still nope.UFC Freedom 250
Crafting American Legacy: Official President Donald J. Trump Gold and Silver Medallions. Minted in America.
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Yes, for the forth time.
Apparently seeing that ad is supposed to make me soil my pants or something. But so far I just see an ad for medallions.
Here, I'll try again:
Nope.UFC Freedom 250
Crafting American Legacy: Official President Donald J. Trump Gold and Silver Medallions. Minted in America.
Maybe this time.
Nope.UFC Freedom 250
Crafting American Legacy: Official President Donald J. Trump Gold and Silver Medallions. Minted in America.
Maybe this time
Still nope.UFC Freedom 250
Crafting American Legacy: Official President Donald J. Trump Gold and Silver Medallions. Minted in America.
Is it really so hard to follow the conversation? I realize that sometimes I’m not as clear as I think I am, but I didn’t think that was the case here. Let’s try this again;
MAGA charged that Joe Biden was corrupt because he and Hunter were leveraging Joe’s position to get deals and enrich themselves. In reality, Hunter may have used his name to get deals, but there was never any evidence that Joe was a part of it or got anything from it.
Trump comes along and starts personally selling merch for events that he’s using his official position to stage. That’s in addition to all of the licensing deals into which his family is entering in countries that are vying for various diplomatic deals. He’s very openly doing all of the stuff that he and his acolytes accused the Bidens of doing and none of them even notice the contradiction, much less care about it.
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It being about whataboutism and double standards is obvious. But it falls flat. Because Trump has been hawking things for decades. Trump is also the name of a multi-billion dollar business. There's nothing remotely new about this. It's just the latest out of umpteen ventures.
Also why would anyone expect Party A to measure Party A by the same standard it measures Party B? How often has that ever happened in politics?
What about when primary candidate A goes on about how incompetent and corrupt candidate B is. But after candidate B wins the primary, candidate A gives their full endorsement and support to candidate B.
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Donald Trump's business interests are profiting off the hosting being done by president Trump the elected official and current White House inhabitant. That second job is to be in service to We The People, not himself.
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He's sold umpteen things while in office. Therefore this is same ol same ol. Moreover certain people are outraged 24/7 over virtually anything he does. Everyone else became desensitized to their daily outrage a long time ago.
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So what was the problem with Biden then, the novelty of it? That this supposed self-dealing was so out of character?
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That's the real damage: that we the people smply learn to accept this sort of behavior from our leaders as the new normal..... because we're bored of it.
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Specify the problem with Biden. Trump sells gold coins and gold basketball shoes etc. Biden sells ________". What was Joe Biden hawking while in office?
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Why would I be the one specifying the problem with Biden? You're the one who said this:
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Servus said:
If anti-trump people really cared about corruption they wouldn't have defended Hunter Biden or pretended nothing happened. See what I mean?
That was just a reversal of:
iluvatar5150 said:
I'm sure it does, but the flip-flopping in the Democratic party is neither as extreme nor as quick. If the pro-Trumpers actually cared about corruption to the degree that they claimed they did with regards to Hunter Biden (who, at most, leveraged his name to land some gigs), they wouldn't be so accepting of Trump and his family blatantly profiting off the office. They're selling $12,000 commemorative coins based on events he's staging as president
To show it goes both ways. Now in comparing the two, Biden and Trump, either both are corrupt in their business dealings, or neither are. Which is it?
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He's using the public office of the president to further his personal fortune (rather than the will of We The People).
This is corruption on par with two-bit poophole countries.
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Sounds like a gripe rather than a description of actual tangible damage.
Name one where the same exact thing is going on and how that makes it a two-bit poophole country.
What makes America look like a third world country are the streets of Los Angeles and Seattle and a few other blue cities run by woke mayors.
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