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An example of how the whole law cannot be practiced today (discussion)

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The gospel they were to teach all nations was what Jesus had taught during His entire earthly ministry.
Including what Paul was taught by him in the third heaven (Gal 1:11-12, 2 Co 12:1-9),
and what he authoritatively teaches us in Ro 13:8, that the one who loves has fulfilled the law.
 
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The law from God will be fulfilled with love because one would not go contrary to God's will which is in the heart of one in the new covenant, that will shown in the commandments. Love which God has fully is what God means for there to be among us.
 
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Including what Paul was taught by him in the third heaven (Gal 1:11-12, 2 Co 12:1-9),
and what he authoritatively teaches us in Ro 13:8, that the one who loves has fulfilled the law.
Will not has.
 
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So you are saying those under the New Covenant, which has made the Old Covenant obsolete (Hebrews 8:13), are to obey the Old Covenant food laws,
The NEW Covenant says Jer 31:31-34 "I will write MY LAW on the heart and mind". It does not say "I will trash My Law and come up with some new ones.. then write those on the heart"

So then it is still true that even Christians are not supposed to "take God's name in vain"

And it is still true that when NT writers list God's commandments, they always include commands from the Law of Moses.

The New Covenant is not about dumping the idea that adultery is wrong or that one does not need to honor parents as Paul points out in Eph 6:1

The New Covenant brings the New Birth necessary to write those moral laws of God on the heart. Moses makes that point and so also Jeremiah 31
 
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So you are saying those under the New Covenant, which has made the Old Covenant obsolete (Hebrews 8:13), are to obey the Old Covenant food laws, defilement of person laws, cleansing laws, feasts, seasons, etc. and the Decalogue.

Is that correct?
Food laws because that which is unclean in respect to animals still is and is not healthy to eat. Personal Defilement in respect being unclean and a biohazard is still true. And if you don't think so go play with a corpse or human waste every day unprotected and see what happens.

Having relations with a relative or animal is still an issue, right? The latter isn't even mentioned in the NT so it must be okay to do so according to the theology you purport.

It was not made obsolete it was made old. How do we know because if it were obsolete then it would not be becoming obsolete, GROWING OLD near to disappearing as the text states. It would be obsolete good for nothing, gone.

(LEB) Heb 8:13 In calling it new, he has declared the former to be old. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is near to disappearing.

The reason he states that it is old is because he is stating, calling the second New. If some thing is new there must be something that is old. So with that in mind, it is growing old or becoming obsolete and is ready to vanish away. Not vanished away, is vanishing away.

The Old Covenant is the law. It will be as long as sin is in this world for they tell us what sin is and are what bring us to Christ. Rom 3 and Gal 3.

Until people accept God's Spirit in their hearts there will be a need for that which was written on stone and parchment to lead them to Christ, (Gal 3) so that which was without will be within.

Yes the Spirit convicts us of sin, but through the Law is the knowledge of what sin is.

As long as sin is in the word there is a need for the law. Where no Law is no transgression.
 
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Clare73 said:
Including what Paul was taught by him in the third heaven (Gal 1:11-12, 2 Co 12:1-9),
and what he authoritatively teaches us in Ro 13:8, that the one who loves has fulfilled the law.


HIM said:
Will not has.

Mark Quayle said:
Why would you change what the Bible says? — "has", not "will"
go and sin?
I don't follow what—or maybe why—you are saying this. Did you, or did you not, change what the Bible says? If you did, what did you intend, by doing so? Don't make me guess.
 
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