My own theory on how life originated

Helg said:

I think maybe a bit like this: remnants of protein from plants in warm water in Africa, two strands of protein that combine and form a bond, the sun is always a "pressing" force, so from there you have the first "will". The will never gets stronger than this first bond unless the one who controls this will allows itself to grow stronger. Plants are life too, they feel their surroundings, so they have a soul too, animals and humans are just more intelligent, they don't necessarily sense more of their surroundings than plants do, but they think more.

Were there two protein bonds that made the first plant too, I don't really know, I would assume so, but maybe rather that there was something before protein. More advanced life requires protein to build a physical body, while plants may have something even simpler,


how does this view fit into the picture of a Creator and the first will?

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From the perspective of the biblical narrative in Genesis, it is God's Will that is sovereign over the material world and prompts life.

Helg said:

Is this God sort of the same as the feeling you have inside of someone listening, or outside our body?

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From what my minuscule mind can cobble together, it's the sort of God who exists eternally but, as Blaise Pascal noted, is hidden and beyond our ability to comprehesively analyze. This ends up meaning that we unfortunately won't be able to answer every question about 'how' God performs in the universe or by exactly which processes He invisibly distributes His Will.

Does that make any sense?

Helg said:

I think maybe a bit like this: remnants of protein from plants in warm water in Africa, two strands of protein that combine and form a bond, the sun is always a "pressing" force, so from there you have the first "will". The will never gets stronger than this first bond unless the one who controls this will allows itself to grow stronger. Plants are life too, they feel their surroundings, so they have a soul too, animals and humans are just more intelligent, they don't necessarily sense more of their surroundings than plants do, but they think more.

Were there two protein bonds that made the first plant too, I don't really know, I would assume so, but maybe rather that there was something before protein. More advanced life requires protein to build a physical body, while plants may have something even simpler,


how does this view fit into the picture of a Creator and the first will?

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I am no scientist, but the idea of two strands of protein possessing a "will" seems unlikely in the extreme. You say that plants feel their surroundings, so they must , in your view, have a soul. But a soul is not required to feel surroundings. I cannot think of anywhere in the Bible where we read that plants have souls.

Helg said:

Well, I`m not gonna try to analyse God, I often pray to him

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That's always a good place to start when any of us are on a journey to explore Christianity.

Helg said:

I think maybe a bit like this: remnants of protein from plants in warm water in Africa, two strands of protein that combine and form a bond, the sun is always a "pressing" force, so from there you have the first "will". The will never gets stronger than this first bond unless the one who controls this will allows itself to grow stronger. Plants are life too, they feel their surroundings, so they have a soul too, animals and humans are just more intelligent, they don't necessarily sense more of their surroundings than plants do, but they think more.

Were there two protein bonds that made the first plant too, I don't really know, I would assume so, but maybe rather that there was something before protein. More advanced life requires protein to build a physical body, while plants may have something even simpler,


how does this view fit into the picture of a Creator and the first will?

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God created everything...

I remember an evolutionary biologist mentioning that there are 20 amino acids that are crucial for the structure and function of proteins in all living organisms. Among these, nine amino acids are considered essential for humans. Basically, life was based on laws of form like codes rather than random mutations and NS.

Which makes sense as all creatures have the same basic body plans. Development and change is restricted to these forms.

You could say this was inherent in all life including bacteria.

But as far as how life originated. This is a different issue to how life evolves. Because first you have to have a way of creating life from non-life. Similar to something from nothing when it comes to the universe.

I am not too fussed with the mechanisms of how life came about and evolves. I believe God is the creator of everything. He is timeless and beyond space. I have no idea and I don't think anyone else does. Humans in their limited knowledge will deduce certain aspects and make assumptions. But we cannot fully know.

So therefore, there will always be a big chunk missing that will change how we see things. We see in part now but later we will see more fully. Which is also true in this world. If we look back 100 years ago our worldview was completely different. The same with the future. We are always revising and still will not know in full.

All the rationalizing about how life happened and evolved as to where God its and steps in is basically trying to fit Him in somewhere. We know God created everything, so He was involved. But how we do not know,

Certainly, I think the universe and life has Gods signature all over it. We don't need a degree for that. In fact, that may blur things. The bible says we all intuitive know of God's creation in the things that we see in nature. That's enough.

I think just proclaiming this as a testimony is all we need like with the psalms and prophets. Let people see the joy and belief that comes from the creator of all things. Which is in Christ.

I like the pictures from the JWT showing the cosmos in detail. Or a fetus glowing and growing in the womb. Even the workings of a cell and with Gods signature in the corner.

Helg said:

I think maybe a bit like this: remnants of protein from plants in warm water in Africa, two strands of protein that combine and form a bond, the sun is always a "pressing" force, so from there you have the first "will". The will never gets stronger than this first bond unless the one who controls this will allows itself to grow stronger. Plants are life too, they feel their surroundings, so they have a soul too, animals and humans are just more intelligent, they don't necessarily sense more of their surroundings than plants do, but they think more.

Were there two protein bonds that made the first plant too, I don't really know, I would assume so, but maybe rather that there was something before protein. More advanced life requires protein to build a physical body, while plants may have something even simpler,


how does this view fit into the picture of a Creator and the first will?

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If this is how it happened, an intelligent mind (a Creator) had to create those “remnants of protein from plants.” Or create whatever produced those proteins, or create whatever produced that, etc. You can push things back as far as you want, but there eventually has to be an uncaused Cause, because otherwise you have an infinite regress of causes, which is logically impossible and also doesn’t explain anything. That is how your scenario fits into the picture of a Creator.

Helg said:

My own theory on how life originated

I think maybe a bit like this: remnants of protein from plants …

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Oops. Plants are life. So it must have originated earlier than that.

Helg said:

Were there two protein bonds that made the first plant, too? I don't really know. I would assume so.

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If you are talking about the first self-organizing molecular structure—two organic molecules joining, stabilizing each other, and thereby becoming the primitive basis of life—then, yes, this is a decent picture of how life originated.

Helg said:

How does this view fit into the picture of a Creator and the first will?

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It works—except the Creator simply is the first will.