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I asked the peanut gallery if they agreed. You have done so. Bully for you.
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South Carolina store owner acquitted of murder in 2023 killing of Black teen
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Thank you! I realise that my way to write it could be read as doubtful, but it was not my intention, I believed you. Laws are strange things sometimes. I'm mostly surprised that the prosecutors didn't make any alternative claims (perhaps they are not allowed in SC).
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And I forgot that we're supposed to make excuses for them when they pull out a gun (which they aren't allowed to even carry) and try killing people.
"Oh well, kids do the darndest things" seems to be the sentiment here. But I guess I shouldn't count on consistency from those who actually celebrated the killing of white adults who weren't even armed. But that's a different topic, so I won't elaborate on that.
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The jury rendered their verdict. That's how the law works, and that's how the justice system works.
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And this is how discussion forums work. We talk about current issues from our own points of view.
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Well, kids do. Looking back, I'm surprised I survived some of the things I rigged up. But ultimately this isn't about kids; it's about what constitutes a lawful use of deadly force. That's going to vary from state to state, but the victim could have been 31 and it would have been the same. It comes down to the victim fleeing the confrontation and being shot in the back. That he was no longer armed is relevant only if Chow was aware of it.
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There's not much detail in the linked article and I don't know anything about the testimony, but for the sake of argument let's assume that:
- Carmack-Belton came in and stole something.
- Chow caught and confronted him.
- Carmack-Belton responded by pointing a pistol at Chow and his son, and threatened to kill them.
- Carmack-Belton then ran from the store and continued to run away.
- While Carmack-Belton was still running away, Chow chased and shot him.
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The family of Cyrus Carmack-Belton expressed their indignation towards a South Carolina jury’s decision on Tuesday to acquit Chikei Rick Chow in the 2023 fatal shooting of the Black 14-year-old.
“Yesterday a jury watched our 14-year-old boy run away from two grown men on video. They knew one of them shot him in the back and they still said no one is to blame,” the family said in a statement first released to ABC News. “We are heartbroken. We do not accept it. Cyrus stole nothing. He was a child, and he was running for his life. Our son mattered.”
Prosecutors alleged that Chow acted out of a false belief that Carmack-Belton had shoplifted four bottles of water from his store.
Video obtained by ABC News shows that Carmack-Belton returned the bottles of water in question and did not steal anything from the store.
According to family attorney Todd Rutherford, the family filed a civil lawsuit against Rick Chow in Richland County, which was put on hold until the conclusion of the criminal case.
“Yesterday a jury watched our 14-year-old boy run away from two grown men on video. They knew one of them shot him in the back and they still said no one is to blame,” the family said in a statement first released to ABC News. “We are heartbroken. We do not accept it. Cyrus stole nothing. He was a child, and he was running for his life. Our son mattered.”
Prosecutors alleged that Chow acted out of a false belief that Carmack-Belton had shoplifted four bottles of water from his store.
Video obtained by ABC News shows that Carmack-Belton returned the bottles of water in question and did not steal anything from the store.
According to family attorney Todd Rutherford, the family filed a civil lawsuit against Rick Chow in Richland County, which was put on hold until the conclusion of the criminal case.
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Not without pulling or attempting to pull the trigger; otherwise, it is assault, a threat of violence. For attempted murder, an attempt needs to have been made, afaik.
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And yet a reasonable jury acquired him. What do they know that you don’t?
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Nonsense. I doubt that you would think the same if it was you that was threatened with a loaded gun.
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I’ve had a loaded gun pointed straight at me four times in my life.
I do not think that in any instance the person doing the aiming was attempting to kill me.
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Uh huh, and since the jury saw all the evidence, they were able to make a far more informed decision than any internet "lawyer" sitting behind a keyboard can make. Therefore, my point of view is to defer to the verdict rendered by the jury.
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Can you think of any other reason to pull out a deadly weapon and point it at someone?
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