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Top Treasury Lawyer Quits Over DOJ Slush Fund
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VirOptimus
A nihilist who cares.
Even if Biden did something wrong, that is besides the point. Cant you hold Trump accountable for when he do wrong?
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Time right now is not on my side. I gots to go.
As for your question, From pewresearch.org
Biden issued “preemptive pardons” to several prominent people who had not been convicted of, charged with or even investigated for any crimes. They include Dr. Anthony Fauci, the longtime director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases; retired Gen. Mark Milley, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; several members of his own family; and members and staff of the U.S. House committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol, as well as police officers who testified before the panel. Biden said he issued the pardons preemptively to protect recipients against potential future prosecutions by the Trump administration.
And a majority of his family.
Interesting huh?
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I know and I see it as problematic, but it is in no way connected to this fund. This is a big red herring. You don't defend the creation of a slush fund by saying that the previous president did something else wrong.
I'm perfectly fine if you want to argue that the president's ability to issue pardons should be circumscribed. I won't argue against you on that.
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It appears that we are talking at cross purposes. I was asking about 'things that have yet come to light.' Neither of us know what those are until they do. Come to light that is.
For the record, I disagree completely with the concept of presidential pardons. And pre-emptive pardons are indefensible. Whoever issues them.
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Not 'even if'. Pardons are wrong. Pre-emptive pardons are wrong. All presidents who issue them are, in my opinion, doing something wrong.
What on earth has this to do with the slush fund?
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It speaks biasness.
But that is what it is.
The following is what I intially responded to. All that was shared is in context to it.
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I must have missed where President Biden had the treasury plop a ton of money down for the people pardoned (preemptively).
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Oh you mean like the Fauci pardon. Given Trump's enemies list of retaliation, that was the correct thing to do.
I said this:
"I don't think there is an intent for a judge to sign off on anything. This is just the Trump IRS making an agreement with Trump's ex personal lawyer turned temp head of DOJ. And yes, absurd that the owner of a org that was found guilty of multiple accounts of criminal tax fraud now has "because we said so" immunity. "
If you think a Trump-v-Trump settlement with his personal lawyer of a lawsuit that was going to be not only slapped out of court, but done so to make sure a judge doesn't decide, is akin to Biden pardoning those for protection of the sure fire vindictive Trump admin, then I don't know what to say. It's sad that given what's going on now it clearly had to be done. Moreover, I have posts here with my sentiment given the blatant pardon abuses by presidents, the pardon power should be removed or at least mandated by the criterion presidents are suppose to follow.
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Trump's Justice Department scrubs its website of news releases about Jan. 6 defendants
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Department of Justice is acknowledging it has removed from its website news releases about criminal cases related to the Jan. 6, 2021, riot, calling the information about the prosecutions “partisan propaganda.”
The Trump DOJ literally whitewashing history.
In the old regime is not like this new regime news, the FBI investigation of Jan 6th began Jan 7th by first term Trump DOJ.
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Did you note the title of the thread? This isn't about pardons or Biden or Biden's pardons.
This is about the slush fund set up to pay off certain individuals, speculatively Trump's paramilitary insurrectionists and how the lawyers with ethics have quit or been purged. Biden has not raided the Treasury to pay off his supporters - Trump is attempting to do this. I hope he will be stopped.
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