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AOC's wealth tax proposal gets dismantled by Argentinian lawmaker during Munich conference

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Sounds like it already is, if not it needs to be.
IF you don't hold him to a LOWER standard, why should we hold our representatives by ANY standard at all?
Or, more important, why should your discernment of a policitian suddenly become astute?
 
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IF you don't hold him to a LOWER standard, why should we hold our representatives by ANY standard at all?
Or, more important, why should your discernment of a policitian suddenly become astute?
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To end her political career and send her back to whatever hole she crawled out of.
 
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Just imagine what it would be like if he wasn't inept.
This is a guy who controls the largest military force that there's ever been on the planet. This is someone who has an officer who follows him around literally wherever he goes with the nuclear codes. I'm struggling to come to terms with the idea that I should be happy that he's completely inept at everything.

I'm not sure that telling myself that at least he's not a genius will help me sleep better.
 
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This is a guy who controls the largest military force that there's ever been on the planet. This is someone who has an officer who follows him around literally wherever he goes with the nuclear codes. I'm struggling to come to terms with the idea that I should be happy that he's completely inept at everything.

I'm not sure that telling myself that at least he's not a genius will help me sleep better.

I don't know about being happy, but there is worse luck.
 
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To end her political career and send her back to whatever hole she crawled out of.
What gives you the impression she crawled out of a hole? That she wants universal health care? Better rights for citizens and workers?

Does that make her pretty evil to you?
 
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Oh dear. You'd lose. Tne guy in geographically inept. From AI:

International Geography & Country Mix-ups
  • "Nambia" (2017): During a luncheon with African leaders at the UN, Trump twice referred to the non-existent country of "Nambia" while praising the health systems of African nations, likely confusing Namibia, Zambia, or Gambia.
  • Confusing Baltic and Balkan States (2018): In a meeting with leaders from the Baltic states (Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia), Trump reportedly accused them of causing the war in Yugoslavia, confusing the Baltic region with the Balkans.
  • Nepal and Bhutan (2018): Reports indicated that in briefings, Trump appeared to think Nepal and Bhutan were part of India.
  • Belgium is a City (2016): During a campaign stop, then-candidate Trump called Belgium "a beautiful city".
  • Paris in Germany (2016): Trump once stated, "Paris is in Germany," when discussing security issues.
  • Iran-Qatar Proximity (2025): Trump claimed one could "walk over from Iran to Qatar" in "one second," despite them being separated by over 500 miles of water (the Persian Gulf).
  • South Africa vs. South America (2025): In a speech in Miami, Trump confused South Africa with South America while discussing immigration and communism.
  • Turkey/Hungary Confusion (2023): Trump referred to Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán as the "leader of Turkey".
  • Russia/Alaska Confusion (2025): Ahead of a meeting with Vladimir Putin, Trump referred to Alaska as Russia.
United States Geography Gaffes
  • Border Wall in Colorado (2019): Trump boasted about building a "beautiful wall" on the border of Colorado, a state that does not border Mexico.
  • Kansas City Chiefs (2020): After the Super Bowl, Trump tweeted congratulations to the "Great State of Kansas" for the Kansas City Chiefs' win. The Chiefs actually play in Kansas City, Missouri.
  • Hurricane Dorian and Alabama (2019): Trump asserted that Hurricane Dorian would hit Alabama, a claim contrary to the National Weather Service's forecast. He later displayed a map in the Oval Office that appeared to have been altered with a Sharpie to include Alabama in the storm's path (widely known as "Sharpiegate").
  • Nashville Convention Mix-up (2019): Trump tweeted that he was addressing a farm convention in Nashville, Tennessee, but was actually speaking in New Orleans, Louisiana.
Everyone makes gaffes. Even people on your side of the political spectrum.
 
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Just imagine what it would be like if he wasn't inept.
Trump is NOT inept. No one is claiming he is perfect but he's most certainly not inept.
 
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What gives you the impression she crawled out of a hole? That she wants universal health care? Better rights for citizens and workers?

Does that make her pretty evil to you?
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I do not like her politics and probably if i knew her personally would not like her as a person.
 
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Trump is NOT inept. No one is claiming he is perfect but he's most certainly not inept.

Lord have mercy. I beg to differ. We can refer to post #17. Or we can refer to the disaster once known as DOGE. Or we can refer to the Epstein file release. Or we can refer to his make-up application choices. Or we can refer to the East Wing. Or we can refer to "tariff dividend" checks no one received. Or we can refer to people being murdered in the street by ICE agents. Or we can refer to his late night postings. Or we can refer to his felonies. Or we can refer to his lawsuits. Or we can refer to his lost business ventures. Or we can refer to the 80s-90s. Or we can refer to the fact that the Trump we all knew was slimily and crooked but somehow he became the darling of all conservatives, and all they could see was gold. :sick:
 
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I’m not sure it was AOC displaying her ignorance there.

Venezuela, while not geographically in the southern hemisphere, is a part of what’s called the Global South, which is a political definition, not a geographical one. Likewise Australia, while firmly in both the southern and eastern hemispheres, is considered a “Western” country and not a part of the Global South.

Again, these are political designations, not based on actual geographical location.


That still wouldn’t make her statement correct. You’re only making her stupidity more evident.
 
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Lord have mercy. I beg to differ. We can refer to post #17. Or we can refer to the disaster once known as DOGE. Or we can refer to the Epstein file release. Or we can refer to his make-up application choices. Or we can refer to the East Wing. Or we can refer to "tariff dividend" checks no one received. Or we can refer to people being murdered in the street by ICE agents. Or we can refer to his late night postings. Or we can refer to his felonies. Or we can refer to his lawsuits. Or we can refer to his lost business ventures. Or we can refer to the 80s-90s. Or we can refer to the fact that the Trump we all knew was slimily and crooked but somehow he became the darling of all conservatives, and all they could see was gold. :sick:
Or we can know that you appear to be seeing everything through a progressive left wing liberal belief system.
 
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Everyone makes gaffes. Even people on your side of the political spectrum.
There's enough there for half a dozen geographically challenged people. And you thought he wouldn't make one mistake on a South American country. I mean, good grief. He doesn't even know where Colorado is! My wife could get lost walking to the corner shop but I just asked her and she knew it was the other side of Arizona from Mexico.

Look, take some advice. Sometimes something is so, so obvious that your best bet if you don't like it is to grit your teeth and quietly accept it. But keep trying to defend the indefensible and there'll be more examples to follow to keep showing you not that you're wrong. But how wrong you are.
 
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There's enough there for half a dozen geographically challenged people. And you thought he wouldn't make one mistake on a South American country. I mean, good grief. He doesn't even know where Colorado is! My wife could get lost walking to the corner shop but I just asked her and she knew it was the other side of Arizona from Mexico.

Look, take some advice. Sometimes something is so, so obvious that your best bet if you don't like it is to grit your teeth and quietly accept it. But keep trying to defend the indefensible and there'll be more examples to follow to keep showing you not that you're wrong. But how wrong you are.
The people who most often attempt to defend the indefensible are, in my opinion, undoubtedly progressive left wing liberals.
 
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Or we can know that you appear to be seeing everything through a progressive left wing liberal belief system.

Doctor, my eyes, can I see the evil and the good without hiding?
 
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That still wouldn’t make her statement correct. You’re only making her stupidity more evident.
From here: Is Venezuela Below the Equator or Just Close Enough to Cause Confusion?

'Contrary to popular belief, Venezuela is still completely above the equator and is distinctly located in the Northern Hemisphere, albeit very near to that invisible midpoint that circles the Earth.'

It's about the same distance as say Colorado is from Mexico. But hey, at least AOC would know that. So calling her stupid in this case would mean that anyone who thought Colorado actually bordered Mexico would be even more stupid. Especially if they were American. So...do you want to go with that argument?
 
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The people who most often attempt to defend the indefensible are, in my opinion, undoubtedly progressive left wing liberals.
Well, don't join that group by trying to do the same.
 
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Or we can know that you appear to be seeing everything through a progressive left wing liberal belief system.
See what I meant about more examples of gross ineptitude?
 
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Sounds like she studied under Kamala Harris with all those word salads.
Lady talk funny, lady laugh funny.
There's enough there for half a dozen geographically challenged people. And you thought he wouldn't make one mistake on a South American country. I mean, good grief. He doesn't even know where Colorado is! My wife could get lost walking to the corner shop but I just asked her and she knew it was the other side of Arizona from Mexico.

Look, take some advice. Sometimes something is so, so obvious that your best bet if you don't like it is to grit your teeth and quietly accept it. But keep trying to defend the indefensible and there'll be more examples to follow to keep showing you not that you're wrong. But how wrong you are.
I know people who think Trump is just aces. That’s fine that they have such faith/respect for him. I like to hear from them, if only to identify who they are.
 
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